Lana Del Rey ~ Sakinorva Databank

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Lana Del Rey

Musician

in Music and Performing Arts

Lana Del Rey ~ Sakinorva Databank

Lana Del Rey

Musician

Music and Performing Arts

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socio

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ISFP 6

INFP 4

ISFJ 1

4w3 12

6w5 6

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2w3 1

sx/sp 11

sp/sx 1

so/sx 1

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sp/so 1

SEI 8

SLI 3

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	lvna 2018/06/04 (Mon) 15:56:18 #1016
	So been thinking more about her. First off I like edza's 6w5 typing. Its a typing that explains her elusiveness, but also her coldness. She has a pretty strong mental fortress, building up this very specific character and using her enterpising abilities to modify it over time to get what she wanted, which seems to be a feeling of relevance and permanence and devotion to her ideals. These ideals are fairly 6ish in nature. Though she clearly wants to do it in her own unique way (perhaps a 4 fix we might say), her interest is in working with themes of national identity, belonging, and security seeking for a sensually focused woman like herself in modern America. I think the 6 also explains some of what people see as social within her. These goals though on the Crowe 6 page apply to her heavily: My mission is to help people overcome their self-doubt and indecision and learn to trust their own inner authority Mymissionistoinspireandempowerpeopletocourageouslyfacetheirfearsthatstop them from having the life they really want (big theme of "Ride") My mission is to trust my divine intuition to take me where I want to go and stop second- guessing myself ...... Anyhow jumping beyond this I think I'll say all this points to someone who in Jung is probably a rational type (Fi in her case. She really doesn't explore her sensations whimsically enough to be an Si type...she's aligned most towards expressing her ideals). It also points to someone who is a static type in socionics. For the same reason I just said I think ISxp is a bad typing in socionics. It doesn't seem like she just stumbled upon fame by expressing her intense sensations in art that was for her own making. Also, her art and what it expresses doesn't really change. She seems more interested in creating something stable than just working with whatever intense sensations her mind gives her. But by the same token i don't think she deserves to be considered an Ixxj type in socionics. She's a bit too ungrounded from herself and it seems like in socioworld Ixxj types start with a pretty clear sense of themselves and then expand this expression through their arts. Her aim seems to be to find that fixed identity because she's naturally a bit untethered. So that implies an Exxp type in socionics. I think it goes without a doubt she's F>T, leaving SEE and IEE. Personally, I'll vouch for the latter. To be clear I still think she's Fi-Si in Jung, but overall by quadra she's way more delta than gamma. The IEE-Fi ideal of someone who brainstorms a persona with their intuition and then follows its development over time suits her well. A lot of other introverts get this typing in socio (even Nick Cave got it for example, and I can see similar reasoning for that.) She matches the reinin dichotomies pretty well for this type too. She's a clear negativist, declaring type etc. Also yes I realize saying all this makes socio seem a bit ridiculous but I'm just trying to find a way to understand its structure and see how someone applies to it and I think IEE works well for her because of its strange contortions lol.

Editing post #1016 by lvna <p>So been thinking more about her. First off I like edza's 6w5 typing. Its a typing that explains her elusiveness, but also her coldness. She has a pretty strong mental fortress, building up this very specific character and using her enterpising abilities to modify it over time to get what she wanted, which seems to be a feeling of relevance and permanence and devotion to her ideals. These ideals are fairly 6ish in nature. Though she clearly wants to do it in her own unique way (perhaps a 4 fix we might say), her interest is in working with themes of national identity, belonging, and security seeking for a sensually focused woman like herself in modern America. I think the 6 also explains some of what people see as social within her. These goals though on the Crowe 6 page apply to her heavily: <br /> <br /> My mission is to help people overcome their self-doubt and indecision and learn to trust their own inner authority </p> <p>Mymissionistoinspireandempowerpeopletocourageouslyfacetheirfearsthatstop them from having the life they really want (big theme of "Ride")<br /> <br /> My mission is to trust my divine intuition to take me where I want to go and stop second- guessing myself</p> <p>......</p> <p>Anyhow jumping beyond this I think I'll say all this points to someone who in Jung is probably a rational type (Fi in her case. She really doesn't explore her sensations whimsically enough to be an Si type...she's aligned most towards expressing her ideals). <br /> <br /> It also points to someone who is a static type in socionics. For the same reason I just said I think ISxp is a bad typing in socionics. It doesn't seem like she just stumbled upon fame by expressing her intense sensations in art that was for her own making. Also, her art and what it expresses doesn't really change. She seems more interested in creating something stable than just working with whatever intense sensations her mind gives her. <br /> <br /> But by the same token i don't think she deserves to be considered an Ixxj type in socionics. She's a bit too ungrounded from herself and it seems like in socioworld Ixxj types start with a pretty clear sense of themselves and then expand this expression through their arts. Her aim seems to be to <em>find </em>that fixed identity because she's naturally a bit untethered. So that implies an Exxp type in socionics. I think it goes without a doubt she's F>T, leaving SEE and IEE. <br /> <br /> Personally, I'll vouch for the latter. To be clear I still think she's Fi-Si in Jung, but overall by quadra she's way more delta than gamma. The IEE-Fi ideal of someone who brainstorms a persona with their intuition and then follows its development over time suits her well. A lot of other introverts get this typing in socio (even Nick Cave got it for example, and I can see similar reasoning for that.) She matches the reinin dichotomies pretty well for this type too. She's a clear negativist, declaring type etc. Also yes I realize saying all this makes socio seem a bit ridiculous but I'm just trying to find a way to understand its structure and see how someone applies to it and I think IEE works well for her because of its strange contortions lol. </p>
Replying to post #1016 by lvna

	lvna 2018/05/14 (Mon) 16:10:45 #520
	To me it's not really her mellowness that doesn't make her an Sx 4. I think especially with a 4w5 Sx you're going to have someone who is relatively mellow over all, but she doesn't really seem to have the personal intensity in what she produces or how she curates her image to seem like an Sx 4. If you're gonna use the Naranjo archetypes she honestly sounds like a mix of Sp 4 and Sx 9, but I think those are a bit too definite/constricting. It does seem like her ultimate focus is social and so much so that her image is always shifting in accords to what she thinks is socially/politically correct.

Editing post #520 by lvna <p>To me it's not really her mellowness that doesn't make her an Sx 4. I think especially with a 4w5 Sx you're going to have someone who is relatively mellow over all, but she doesn't really seem to have the personal intensity in what she produces or how she curates her image to seem like an Sx 4. If you're gonna use the Naranjo archetypes she honestly sounds like a mix of Sp 4 and Sx 9, but I think those are a bit too definite/constricting. It does seem like her ultimate focus is social and so much so that her image is always shifting in accords to what she thinks is socially/politically correct. </p>
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date	username	vote
22/05/10 09:58	rock and roll	ISFP
22/03/25 10:32	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISFP
20/01/18 12:21	Thyssen	INFP
20/01/18 11:45	bibliology	ISFP
19/08/23 15:19	Zoinks	IFP
19/05/04 13:06	fsninetwo	INFP
19/02/17 20:59	Teru Mikami	INF
19/02/17 20:24	tch	ISFP
19/01/28 00:54	suckmydick	INFP
20/06/29 08:04	Flower-like	ISFJ
18/07/11 02:43	scumfuc	ISFP
20/08/27 06:41	Diobono	INFP
19/08/30 20:29	LVNA	INF
18/05/10 04:09	edza	INFJ
19/07/28 11:23	Eon	INF
18/05/05 08:58	Taco110	ISFP
18/05/29 04:12	strawberry crisis	INFJ
18/05/03 10:30	the heart marksman	ISFP

date	username	vote
22/05/10 09:58	rock and roll	ISFP
22/03/25 10:32	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISFP
20/06/29 08:14	Flower-like	ISFJ
20/01/18 12:21	Thyssen	ISFP
19/09/13 01:10	tch	ISFP
19/08/23 17:06	Brainer	ISFP
19/05/04 13:00	fsninetwo	INFP
18/05/29 06:13	LVNA	INFP
18/05/29 06:44	strawberry crisis	INFP

date	username	vote
22/05/10 09:58	rock and roll	4w3
22/03/25 10:32	GIJOEBusta Cap	4w3
22/03/07 23:29	Woll Smoth	6w5
20/05/27 13:30	afranuripk	4w3
20/05/27 10:20	sudeozcan	4w3
20/01/18 12:21	Thyssen	6w5
20/01/18 11:45	bibliology	4w3
19/08/23 17:06	Brainer	4w3
19/06/06 08:09	Teru Mikami	6w5
18/07/11 02:43	scumfuc	4w3
18/06/04 08:56	strawberry crisis	6w5
20/09/13 00:53	LVNA	6w5
18/05/10 04:09	edza	6w5
18/05/08 09:53	EON	4w3
18/12/08 01:39	Taco110	4w3
18/05/03 10:30	the heart marksman	4w3

date	username	vote
22/05/10 09:58	rock and roll	sx/sp
22/03/25 10:32	GIJOEBusta Cap	sx/sp
20/06/07 08:18	afranuripk	sx/sp
20/06/08 12:52	sudeozcan	sp/sx
20/01/18 12:21	Thyssen	sx/sp
20/01/18 11:47	bibliology	sp/so
19/08/23 17:06	Brainer	sx/sp
19/02/17 20:59	Teru Mikami	sx/sp
18/05/26 08:23	LVNA	sx/sp
18/05/10 04:09	edza	sx/sp
18/05/08 10:01	EON	so/sx
18/05/05 08:58	Taco110	sx/sp
18/05/03 10:30	the heart marksman	sx/sp

date	username	vote
20/01/18 12:21	Thyssen	649
20/01/18 11:47	bibliology	469
19/06/06 08:10	Teru Mikami	649
19/02/17 19:41	Leilli	469
18/09/13 01:27	LVNA	469

date	username	vote
23/07/26 15:13	Woll Smoth	SEI
22/05/10 09:58	rock and roll	SEI
22/03/25 10:32	GIJOEBusta Cap	SEI
20/06/27 06:40	fleetingpetals1	ESI
20/06/05 18:28	Diobono	SEI
20/06/04 21:33	Flower-like	SEI
20/01/18 12:21	Thyssen	SLI
19/02/17 20:59	Teru Mikami	EII
18/08/31 10:50	kawaii	SLI
18/07/11 02:44	scumfuc	ESI
19/01/15 05:06	LVNA	EII
18/05/10 04:14	edza	SLI
18/05/08 09:54	EON	SEI
18/05/05 08:37	strawberry crisis	SEI

date	username	vote
20/10/19 10:21	Flower-like	FELV
20/06/27 06:40	fleetingpetals1	EFLV
20/06/05 18:29	Diobono	EFLV
20/01/31 23:11	LVNA	EFLV