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Adolf Hitler ~ Sakinorva Databank

Adolf Hitler


German Politics

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INFJ 12
ISFP 3
ENTJ 1
INTP 1
ENFJ 1
6w5 17
cp6w5 1
sx/so 5
so/sx 5
sx/sp 1
so/sp 1
sp/so 1
EIE 14
LSI 1
ILI 1
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12345tp12345

INTP

5w6

2021/05/11 (Tue) 14:53:02

#8745


most unhealthy you mean

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jungagain

INFP

6w7

2021/05/11 (Tue) 13:10:08

#8742

Most EIE to ever EIE

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/18 (Thu) 17:40:38

#8707


I agree that we can't empirically measure the personality type of dead people, but claiming that we can't "reduce human behavior to a formula?" I mean yes and no. There are some pretty well established scientific principles in Psychology (mostly dealing with behavior), but that doesn't mean every part of every persons personality can be reduced to a theory, because that would be stupid and no one is even trying to do that.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2021/03/18 (Thu) 13:20:55

#8704


The world is a dream, and, in a way, even the laws of thermodynamics were invented.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2021/03/18 (Thu) 01:19:30

#8701


Things that are inherently non-empirical, such as the personality type of a long-dead famous person, do not require data or statistics because they cannot be "proven" in the typical sense. It's pointless to attach oneself to any method in these cases because doing so is besides the point, and attempting to reduce such grand and indefinable things as human behavior to a formula is a kind of stupidity.

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Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys

INTP

5w4

2021/03/18 (Thu) 00:11:45

#8699

He means he can't articulate his thoughts as they don't make any sense.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 23:34:34

#8698


What do you mean by "Intuition?" Because it kind of sounds like your saying people don't need statistical evidence to prove stuff when they have a strong gut feeling that what they believe is true.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 23:30:45

#8697


It seems like a philosophical system that wouldn't allow us to determine that there weren't invisible hypos in every room would be impractical at best.
Just to be clear, I'm claiming that MBTI has not been empirically proven. If someone wanted to argue against that point, the burden of proof would be on them.
At this point though, it really seems like we actually mostly agree; you seem to more view MBTI as a helpful subjective guide rather then an objective scientific fact, and are more frustrated with inconstancy with definitions.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2021/03/17 (Wed) 23:02:06

#8696

the use of data and statistics is unnecessary and even misleading where intuition is sufficient

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 22:11:31

#8693


So then how do we deterimin weather or not MBTI accurately describes the world? Is there a way we can evaluate abstract concepts?
My criticism of your writing is more that your thoughts aren't clearly organized. If there's to much information, it all just starts to look like background noise, and it's difficult to tell what are the important bits.
Also, all data and scientific studies are faulty appeals to authority, because "it could be faked?" So we can't scientifically provide evidence for anything?
The burden of proof isn't on me to find evince against MBTI, because you can't prove a negative. Russel's Teapot and all that.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 21:26:53

#8690


Oh also I said,
"Empirically untested, o̲r̲ ̲p̲r̲o̲v̲e̲n̲ ̲u̲n̲r̲e̲l̲i̲a̲b̲l̲e̲"

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 21:23:17

#8689


To be perfectly blunt, I can't understand you a lot of the times because your a bad writer. You tend to write things out in these long, stream of conciseness style screeds, where it feels like your trying to cram down every single thought that comes into your head onto the text box as quickly as possible. I know it's rich coming from Captain Spelling Errors over here, but it's the truth.

Second off, not all appeals to authority are fallacious; it only becomes so when the authority is irreverent. My point was that Psychologists tend to reject MBTI because of a lack of empirical evidence; I wasn't saying they were right just because they were Psychologists.

I agree you can prove something without Empirical evidence, but in that case, by what standard of Evidence could we possibly say MBTI was true? Are we going to prove it from Cartesien first principles?

The Astrology thing was mostly hyperbole.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 19:51:30

#8687


I'd love to be proven wrong on this front, because I personally find MBTI very helpful. It's just that all of the evidence seems to point against it.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 19:49:45

#8686


I mean, you do know all forms of MBTI are either Empirically untested, or proven to be unreliable right? Like, no actual "Objective Sources" promote it, and most Physiologists specializing in personality view it as Pseudo Science. Like, your pretty much gate keeping Astrology here.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/17 (Wed) 14:22:04

#8683

By IDR functions I just meant "the none Socionics functions." So, for ISFP: it would go Fi, Se, Ni, Te. are we referring to the same basic theory here? I apologize for the confusion.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2021/03/16 (Tue) 22:46:28

#8680

PHSC, why ISFP in terms of IDR functions?

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ftp

ISTP

9w8

SLI

2020/05/04 (Mon) 19:53:01

#8174

pee pee poo poo

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Teru Mikami

2019/05/30 (Thu) 17:47:00

#6202

he was also on meth

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/05/30 (Thu) 17:31:24

#6200

according to Johann Chapoutot ( historian specialist of nazism who made a biography of hitler) he was not a planner at all. according to him the german military strategist did all the work.  he only succeed to fake a lot of millitary skills because he was hypermnesic.

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Teru Mikami

2019/05/30 (Thu) 08:22:52

#6195

+ real intuitives wouldn't use wooden doors

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/05/30 (Thu) 08:20:00

#6193

he was not J at all . he was very lazy, spend most of his time of ruling at watching movies, was very impredictible, a lot of the third reich's doing are his  comment in private interpreted by his high ranked follower in a more "professional way", he did not even plan to make a jude extermination at first, at the start he planned to deport them but he saw that was too much complicated so he choosed to eliminate them .

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Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys

INTP

5w4

2018/06/22 (Fri) 22:04:37

#1430

Russian trolls don't have a type

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Sleeper

xxTx

Nein

SLE

2018/06/22 (Fri) 21:12:21

#1429

Guess Trump isn't literally Hitler then...

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2018/05/15 (Tue) 10:13:48

#538

i agree with your comment about anti semitism and hitler's place on history

not every politician win because he understand people, it can be party dynamic, or because he convinced people with reasonable argument, or just because the people was against the precedent candidate. Hitler only used passion .

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EON

INFP

2018/05/15 (Tue) 10:06:51

#537

One could argue every politician who ever won president "understood his people", but that doesn't make them all F.

Hitler was a case of the right man at the wrong time, he didn't manipulated an entire nation's minds and turned them all into racists and war-mongers; anti-semitism was already there.

Hitler was a great speaker, not someone who read people's minds. 

He attacked Russia because he was a megalomaniac.

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2018/05/15 (Tue) 08:26:20

#533

i did not said that he was dumb but his intelligence was based on understanding of germany people's feeling and he use it, instead of rational intelligence(like strategy or problem solving). being ruthless does not mean being a T. Hitler's project was not based on his nation's interest why he would attack Russia if it was his objective(and if it is he is was not enough methodic to do it)

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edza

ENTJ

8w7

SLE

2018/05/15 (Tue) 07:41:12

#532

I wish there was a way to vote IxxP.

"I follow my course with the precision and security of a sleep-walker." - Hitler

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EON

INFP

2018/05/15 (Tue) 06:31:59

#531

T types are perfectly capable of being dumb, so him being a poor strategist doesn't prove anything.

He relied on inspiration/insight more than logic or human considerations, which would make him perception focused.

He took the most ruthless methods to achieve his goals: to ensure the survival of his nation by eliminating its percieved enemies and gaining territories. Not sure how is this F at all. Ruthless focus on goals above basic empathy is T. The problem is F had ended up meaning "irrational" or "charismatic", thus Hitler as F.

The day Hitler would be seen as T is the day the MBTI community will manage to think straight again.

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2018/05/15 (Tue) 04:44:10

#530

i don't see how this man could be seen as a T (Te or Ti), beyond the "ah he is a bastard he must be a T". this guy his motivated by his feeling and lacked of logic (so not a Ti dom or aux) and was a poor strategist (weakTe). ISFP is more probable for him than INFP, his focus on Nazi aesthetics and his impulsive nature is more Se than Ne.

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22/08/26 10:10GIJOEBusta Cap INFJ
22/03/01 23:32Woll Smoth INFP
22/01/29 01:57Darkstar ENTJ
21/08/18 12:37Lawless INFJ
21/04/22 02:47devilgirl666 ENFJ
21/03/18 15:28Thyssen INTJ
21/03/17 16:00Jacobus INFP
21/03/16 22:42Tman NFJ
20/07/27 04:08Flower-like NFJ
20/06/27 07:10fleetingpetals1 INT
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18/12/06 18:42twinpinks INFJ
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18/10/13 23:31switchblades IxTP
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21/03/16 23:09LadyX INTJ
18/09/15 09:52alesarto INTJ
18/09/15 06:36Teru Mikami INTx
18/06/22 09:12Sleeper ISFJ
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18/05/15 07:39edza ISTP
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22/08/26 10:10GIJOEBusta Cap INFJ
22/03/01 23:32Woll Smoth INFJ
22/01/29 01:57Darkstar INFJ
21/05/16 19:14Tman INFJ
21/04/22 02:47devilgirl666 ENFJ
21/03/18 15:28Thyssen ISFP
21/03/17 16:00Jacobus INFJ
19/05/31 03:54jt INTP
21/05/13 22:23Lol ISFP
19/03/17 04:39fsninetwo INFJ
18/12/06 18:22tch INFJ
18/12/03 18:58Taco110 INFJ
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18/05/12 04:22fg ISFP
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22/01/29 01:57Darkstar 6w5
21/04/22 02:47devilgirl666 6w5
21/03/18 15:28Thyssen 6w5
21/03/16 22:42Tman 6w5
20/05/15 07:39Phantom 6w5
19/05/31 03:53jt 6w5
19/05/30 19:25Lol 6w5
19/03/17 04:39fsninetwo 6w5
19/01/05 16:01Eva Braun 6w5
18/11/13 22:28tch 6w5
18/10/22 17:28ForestSketcher 6w5
18/09/27 00:51LadyX 6w5
18/09/15 06:36Teru Mikami 6w5
18/05/15 10:08EON 6w5
18/05/06 09:39Mineshield 6w5
18/05/05 03:38Taco110 6w5
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22/08/26 10:10GIJOEBusta Cap so/sx
22/01/29 01:57Darkstar sx/so
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21/03/16 22:42Tman so/sx
19/03/17 04:40fsninetwo sx/so
18/12/03 19:03Taco110 sx/sp
18/11/13 22:27tch so/sx
18/09/27 00:52LadyX sp/so
18/09/15 06:36Teru Mikami so/sp
18/06/22 05:19kawaii sx/so
18/05/12 04:22fg sx/so
dateusernamevote
22/01/29 01:57Darkstar 684
21/04/22 02:47devilgirl666 684
21/03/16 23:09LadyX 648
21/03/16 22:49Tman 648
20/05/15 07:40Phantom 648
19/06/08 17:04ResoluteSoul 614
19/03/17 04:40fsninetwo 61x
18/12/03 19:05Taco110 614
18/09/15 07:32kawaii 614
dateusernamevote
22/08/26 10:10GIJOEBusta Cap EIE
22/01/29 01:57Darkstar EIE
21/04/22 02:47devilgirl666 EIE
21/03/18 15:28Thyssen EIE
21/03/17 16:00Jacobus EIE
21/03/16 22:49Tman EIE
20/05/15 08:30fleetingpetals1 ILI
20/05/15 07:38Phantom EIE
20/02/28 02:32Lol EIE
20/01/19 19:35zazu EIE
18/12/03 19:02Taco110 EIE
18/11/13 22:27tch EIE
18/10/17 08:01magnets29 EIE
18/10/13 23:32switchblades EIE
18/06/22 04:48fg EIE
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21/05/13 22:23Lol VELF
21/03/18 15:28Thyssen VELF
21/03/17 23:40Tman VELF
20/09/06 07:48Flower-like VELF
20/06/27 07:10fleetingpetals1 VELF
20/05/15 07:38Phantom VELF
19/10/19 11:06fg VELF
19/10/15 20:18Jacobus VELF
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21/03/18 15:28Thyssen HEXACO