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	lvna 2018/06/19 (Tue) 19:16:39 #1310
	"One night a friend lent me a book of short stories by Franz Kafka. I went back to the pension where I was staying and began to read The Metamorphosis. The first line almost knocked me off the bed. I was so surprised. The first line reads, “As Gregor Samsa awoke that morning from uneasy dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a gigantic insect. . . .” When I read the line I thought to myself that I didn’t know anyone was allowed to write things like that. If I had known, I would have started writing a long time ago. So I immediately started writing short stories." This sounds like perceived writing as S, realized it could be N, began writing. "The people who really helped me to get rid of my intellectual attitude towards the short story were the writers of the American Lost Generation. I realized that their literature had a relationship with life that my short stories didn’t. And then an event took place which was very important with respect to this attitude. It was the Bogotazo, on the ninth of April, 1948, when a political leader, Gaitan, was shot and the people of Bogotá went raving mad in the streets. I was in my pension ready to have lunch when I heard the news. I ran towards the place, but Gaitan had just been put into a taxi and was being taken to a hospital. On my way back to the pension, the people had already taken to the streets and they were demonstrating, looting stores and burning buildings. I joined them. That afternoon and evening, I became aware of the kind of country I was living in, and how little my short stories had to do with any of that. When I was later forced to go back to Barranquilla on the Caribbean, where I had spent my childhood, I realized that that was the type of life I had lived, knew, and wanted to write about." Sounds like he decided there was a need to go from an NT perspective that was natural to him and move towards a more S and much more F one. I'm guessing you were referencing this: "It always amuses me that the biggest praise for my work comes for the imagination, while the truth is that there’s not a single line in all my work that does not have a basis in reality. The problem is that Caribbean reality resembles the wildest imagination." Don't you at least think if someone actually cared about imagination and the strangeness of reality to devote a life to writing stories out of these things they would probably be N??? TBH I'm getting VERY tired of all these Latin American authors and artists getting typed as S just because they aren't intellectualizing 100% of the time and focus more on "the real." But what can we say when the real "is wild?" Yk you could even make similar arguments about the rural United States and any mystical folk tales in general. As someone whose identity is constantly teetering between roots in Latin America and the United States I can tell you 100% I empathize with this perspective. When I write I tend to start a lot of chapters with epithets that are either folk stories from L.A. or inspired by them and personalized by me. In a Jungian sense almost all of these stories probably blur the line between N and S...I think that distinction is more extreme within a place like the U.S. They don't coexist to the same degree. Also did you know many folk stories from Latin America are amoralistic? Compare that with folk stories even from somewhere like Spain and you'll see over there they are almost entirely allegorical or impart some sort of moral message...that fact should demonstrate how P in general Latin America is in comparison to other regions...which means you'll probably get a lot of S and N coexistence. But like, if you want call him a rational or something like a Ti dom who looked into other people's intuition like Jung did I guess you can go that route but idk, his entire career focused on the intuitve side of stories themselves sooooooooooooooooo like yeah...idk what else you wanna say but go ahead and label another L.A. artist S because they noticed intuitive things in their own culture.

Editing post #1310 by lvna <p>"One night a friend lent me a book of short stories by Franz Kafka. I went back to the pension where I was staying and began to read <em>The Metamorphosis</em>. The first line almost knocked me off the bed. I was so surprised. The first line reads, “As Gregor Samsa awoke that morning from uneasy dreams, he found himself transformed in his bed into a gigantic insect. . . .” When I read the line I thought to myself that I didn’t know anyone was allowed to write things like that. If I had known, I would have started writing a long time ago. So I immediately started writing short stories." <strong>This sounds like perceived writing as S, realized it could be N, began writing. </strong><br /> <br /> "The people who really helped me to get rid of my intellectual attitude towards the short story were the writers of the American Lost Generation. I realized that their literature had a relationship with life that my short stories didn’t. And then an event took place which was very important with respect to this attitude. It was the Bogotazo, on the ninth of April, 1948, when a political leader, Gaitan, was shot and the people of Bogotá went raving mad in the streets. I was in my pension ready to have lunch when I heard the news. I ran towards the place, but Gaitan had just been put into a taxi and was being taken to a hospital. On my way back to the pension, the people had already taken to the streets and they were demonstrating, looting stores and burning buildings. I joined them. That afternoon and evening, I became aware of the kind of country I was living in, and how little my short stories had to do with any of that. When I was later forced to go back to Barranquilla on the Caribbean, where I had spent my childhood, I realized that that was the type of life I had lived, knew, and wanted to write about." <br /> <br /> <strong>Sounds like he decided there was a need to go from an NT perspective that was natural to him and move towards a more S and much more F one. </strong></p> <p>I'm guessing you were referencing this: "It always amuses me that the biggest praise for my work comes for the imagination, while the truth is that there’s not a single line in all my work that does not have a basis in reality. The problem is that Caribbean reality resembles the wildest imagination." <br /> <br /> Don't you at least think if someone actually cared about imagination and the strangeness of reality to devote a life to writing stories out of these things they would probably be N??? TBH I'm getting VERY tired of all these Latin American authors and artists getting typed as S just because they aren't intellectualizing 100% of the time and focus more on "the real." But what can we say when the real "is wild?" Yk you could even make similar arguments about the rural United States and any mystical folk tales in general. </p> <p>As someone whose identity is constantly teetering between roots in Latin America and the United States I can tell you 100% I empathize with this perspective. When I write I tend to start a lot of chapters with epithets that are either folk stories from L.A. or inspired by them and personalized by me. In a Jungian sense almost all of these stories probably blur the line between N and S...I think that distinction is more extreme within a place like the U.S. They don't coexist to the same degree. <br /> <br /> Also did you know many folk stories from Latin America are amoralistic? Compare that with folk stories even from somewhere like Spain and you'll see over there they are almost entirely allegorical or impart some sort of moral message...that fact should demonstrate how P in general Latin America is in comparison to other regions...which means you'll probably get a lot of S and N coexistence. </p> <p>But like, if you want call him a rational or something like a Ti dom who looked into other people's intuition like Jung did I guess you can go that route but idk, his entire career focused on the intuitve side of stories themselves sooooooooooooooooo like yeah...idk what else you wanna say but go ahead and label another L.A. artist S because they noticed intuitive things in their own culture. </p>
Replying to post #1310 by lvna

	Stephen Hearts ENFJ 2w1 2018/06/19 (Tue) 16:10:49 #1295
	have y'all...read the interview or interviews with and about Marquez in general? and the way Marquez is using the word intuitive in that interview is not incompatible with how it's generally used in MBTI. he's talking about how his methods of writing as an author of fantastical/magical things were appropriated from his practical experience as a journalist and from grounded sources and inspiration.

Editing post #1295 by Stephen Hearts <p>have y'all...read the interview or interviews with and about Marquez in general? and the way Marquez is using the word intuitive in that interview is not incompatible with how it's generally used in MBTI. he's talking about how his methods of writing as an author of fantastical/magical things were appropriated from his practical experience as a journalist and from grounded sources and inspiration. </p>
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	strawberry crisis enfp 7 2018/05/09 (Wed) 13:06:41 #289
	I think Marquez meant "intuitive" in reference to his ingenuity, in which the N/S connection does hold a bit of merit—but I do think Marquez had a very humbled view of himself and that he even if he were to see himself as sensing, his work demonstrates that he was in fact very intuitive and that he basked in that world.

Editing post #289 by strawberry crisis I think Marquez meant "intuitive" in reference to his ingenuity, in which the N/S connection does hold a <i>bit</i> of merit—but I do think Marquez had a very humbled view of himself and that he even if he were to see himself as sensing, his work demonstrates that he was in fact very intuitive and that he basked in that world.
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	EON INFP 2018/05/09 (Wed) 13:02:15 #288
	I'm not sure in what way he used the word "intuitive", but unless you can prove everything fantastic in his prose is copy-pasted from somewhere else, him not being N is pretty off.I'm not sure the other letters tough. Telling fantastic thing in a straight way is pretty N provided one doesn't simply copies those things word for word (and like he said, he took the tehnique from journalism)

Editing post #288 by EON I'm not sure in what way he used the word "intuitive", but unless you can prove everything fantastic in his prose is copy-pasted from somewhere else, him not being N is pretty off.I'm not sure the other letters tough. Telling fantastic thing in a straight way is pretty N provided one doesn't simply copies those things word for word (and like he said, he took the tehnique from journalism)
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	Stephen Hearts ENFJ 2w1 2018/05/02 (Wed) 03:49:41 #15
	I honestly think he might have been N (he sorta...has to be), but Marquez himself would reject this notion. He viewed himself working less as an author of the fantastic and more of a journalist or historian - albeit one recounting often magical and wondrous things. There is something very matter-of-fact and concrete about the prose of Marquez that doesn't leave a lot to interpretation within the words or events themselves. From the New York Times, "''The whole notion that I am an intuitive is a myth I have created myself,'' said Garcia Marquez. ''I worked my way through literature, reading, writing, reading and writing -it's the only way.'' He read the Russians and the great English and American authors. ''I learned a lot from James Joyce and Erskine Caldwell and of course from Hemingway.'' But the ''tricks you need to transform something which appears fantastic, unbelievable into something plausible, credible, those I learned from journalism,'' he said. ''The key is to tell it straight. It is done by reporters and by country folk.''"

Editing post #15 by Stephen Hearts I honestly think he might have been N (he sorta...has to be), but Marquez himself would reject this notion. He viewed himself working less as an author of the fantastic and more of a journalist or historian - albeit one recounting often magical and wondrous things. There is something very matter-of-fact and concrete about the prose of Marquez that doesn't leave a lot to interpretation within the words or events themselves. From the New York Times, "''The whole notion that I am an intuitive is a myth I have created myself,'' said Garcia Marquez. ''I worked my way through literature, reading, writing, reading and writing -it's the only way.'' He read the Russians and the great English and American authors. ''I learned a lot from James Joyce and Erskine Caldwell and of course from Hemingway.'' But the ''tricks you need to transform something which appears fantastic, unbelievable into something plausible, credible, those I learned from journalism,'' he said. ''The key is to tell it straight. It is done by reporters and by country folk.''"
Replying to post #15 by Stephen Hearts

date	username	vote
21/05/13 00:11	Darkstar	INFJ
20/04/17 19:38	bibliology	INFJ
18/12/02 14:56	LadyX	INFJ
18/06/19 05:47	EON	xNxx
18/06/15 04:25	lvna	INxJ
18/10/10 12:56	strawberry crisis	INTJ
18/06/19 04:00	Stephen Hearts	xSxx

date	username	vote
21/05/13 00:11	Darkstar	INFJ

date	username	vote
21/05/13 00:11	Darkstar	4w5
18/05/02 04:59	strawberry crisis	1w2
18/05/02 03:42	Stephen Hearts	1w2

date	username	vote
21/05/13 00:11	Darkstar	so/sp
18/05/02 04:59	strawberry crisis	so/sx
18/05/02 03:37	Stephen Hearts	so/sx

date	username	vote
21/05/13 00:11	Darkstar	416

date	username	vote
21/05/13 00:11	Darkstar	IEE
18/09/15 16:22	LVNA	IEE
18/10/10 12:56	strawberry crisis	IEE