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Ray ~ Sakinorva Databank

Ray

The Promised Neverland

Cartoon and Animation

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	Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI 2020/07/05 (Sun) 18:16:27 #8346
	In response to post #8340. Looking back on it, it seems that he was far from apathetic. I think it was also a mistake to call him immoral, but that has a bit more truth to it. It's more that Jay operates within moral greys, admittedly not by any fault of his own. He's willing to let some of the kids get left behind if that's what's neceseary for as many people as possible to survive, as opposed to Emma, who wants to save everyone. I voted him a 5w6 because, although he doesn't really seem to love learning for it's own sake, he tries to use quite observation to keep himself safe. He neither rebels against authority nor tries to ingratiate himself with that authority, like a 6 would do.

Editing post #8346 by Tman Looking back on it, it seems that he was far from apathetic. I think it was also a mistake to call him immoral, but that has a bit more truth to it. It's more that Jay operates within moral greys, admittedly not by any fault of his own. He's willing to let some of the kids get left behind if that's what's neceseary for as many people as possible to survive, as opposed to Emma, who wants to save everyone. I voted him a 5w6 because, although he doesn't really seem to love learning for it's own sake, he tries to use quite observation to keep himself safe. He neither rebels against authority nor tries to ingratiate himself with that authority, like a 6 would do.
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	TheMemphis 2020/07/05 (Sun) 12:15:06 #8340
	In response to post #6711. And just when you remarkably escaped the trap of voting him as 5 now you go back on your own words. You perfectly explained why he isn't a 5, he's just not a curious boy, he doesn't value the urge of getting competency for one's own peace of mind/pleasure. Also, more directly asked how is he apathetic and amoral ? He highly values and works hard to preserve what many moral compasses would consider as basic right : human life. On top of that : alone. He had no support, he was the only one knowing the truth and kept it from everyone else, and at no moment did he put "saving his life" in his calculations. This just goes and shows that : 1- He was extremely driven (so total contrary of apathetic), because once again he was working alone against all odds against a horrific destiny 2- He was working towards achieving a selfless inherently felt right goal..... because once again, no one asked him that, no one even knew about this , he did it all on his own I'm under the impression that you've got his nature of a tragic hero growing in a gray/dark atmosphere messed up with his own values.

Editing post #8340 by TheMemphis And just when you remarkably escaped the trap of voting him as 5 now you go back on your own words. You perfectly explained why he isn't a 5, he's just not a curious boy, he doesn't value the urge of getting competency for one's own peace of mind/pleasure.<br>Also, more directly asked how is he apathetic and amoral ? He highly values and works hard to preserve what many moral compasses would consider as basic right : human life. On top of that : alone. He had no support, he was the only one knowing the truth and kept it from everyone else, and at no moment did he put "saving his life" in his calculations. <br>This just goes and shows that : <br>1- He was extremely driven (so total contrary of apathetic), because once again he was working alone against all odds against a horrific destiny<br>2- He was working towards achieving a selfless inherently felt right goal..... because once again, no one asked him that, no one even knew about this , he did it all on his own <br>I'm under the impression that you've got his nature of a tragic hero growing in a gray/dark atmosphere messed up with his own values.
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	tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI 2019/07/26 (Fri) 01:07:34 #6711
	The main enngram typing here makes no god damn sense. There couldn't be anything father from the pragmatic, apthetic, damn near amoral chartictziation of Ray then a 1. As for 5w6, he says he dosn't pertuailarly like learning for it's own sake, and only dose so to surive. Ray is a 6w5, hands down. As for IDR, he clearly has infiorer Fi, and make much more use of Te then Ni (Ray get's shit done.)

Editing post #6711 by tman <p>The main enngram typing here makes no god damn sense. There couldn't be anything father from the pragmatic, apthetic, damn near amoral chartictziation of Ray then a 1. As for 5w6, he says he dosn't pertuailarly like learning for it's own sake, and only dose so to surive. Ray is a 6w5, hands down. As for IDR, he clearly has infiorer Fi, and make much more use of Te then Ni (Ray get's shit done.)</p>
Replying to post #6711 by tman

date	username	vote
19/08/16 15:06	Tman	INTJ
19/03/11 17:58	Resonare	INTJ
19/02/19 18:57	edza	INTJ
19/03/11 20:05	Ryugan	INTJ

date	username	vote
20/03/17 12:02	Tman	INTJ
19/03/11 17:59	Resonare	INTJ

date	username	vote
20/07/04 22:54	Tman	5w6
19/05/26 15:27	TheMemphis	1w9
19/03/21 18:22	edza	1w9
19/03/11 20:05	Ryugan	5w6

date	username	vote
19/07/26 00:58	tman	sp/sx

date	username	vote
20/07/04 22:54	Tman	584
19/03/21 18:23	edza	162

date	username	vote
20/01/09 11:39	TheMemphis	LIE
19/07/26 00:52	tman	LIE
19/03/18 18:46	edza	LIE
19/03/11 17:59	Resonare	ILI

date	username	vote
20/01/09 16:44	Tman	FLVE