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Deism

Religious philosophy

Philosophy, Psychology, and Social Sciences

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Teru Mikami 2019/04/23 (Tue) 16:51:00 #5830
"Deism is the belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically a creator who does not intervene in the universe" "Theism is the belief in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes with the universe" uh huh

Editing post #5830 by Teru Mikami <p><a href="https://pediaa.com/difference-between-deism-and-theism/"><em>"</em><em>Deism is the belief in the existence of a supreme being, specifically a creator who does not intervene in the universe"</em></a></p> <p><a href="https://pediaa.com/difference-between-deism-and-theism/">"<em>Theism</em><em> is the belief in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes with the universe"</em></a></p> <p> </p> <p>uh huh</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2019/04/23 (Tue) 13:43:20 #5829
	you made a confusion between deism and theism. deism is the believe in god or many, theism is any possible"higher force" you mentionned. but this higher force is not nessearly a god but in that case we talk about theism not deism. we talk about deism in this topic (all monotheism and polytheism are deism). some philosopher included god in their philosophy like aristotle or stoicians but it's certainly not the most Ns (one of the most deist of this philosopher Marc Aurèle is ISFJ, and Aristotle is borderline in the N/S field), a non deist philosopher like heraclite is far more N with his theory of eternal return and the emergence of contrary, he succeed to find meaning without the easy concept of god.

Editing post #5829 by fg <p>you made a confusion between deism and theism. deism is the believe in god or many, theism is any possible"higher force" you mentionned. but this higher force is not nessearly a god but in that case we talk about theism not deism. we talk about deism in this topic (all monotheism and polytheism are deism). some philosopher included god in their philosophy like aristotle or stoicians but it's certainly not the most Ns (one of the most deist of this philosopher Marc Aurèle is ISFJ, and Aristotle is borderline in the N/S field), a non deist philosopher like heraclite is far more N with his theory of eternal return and the emergence of contrary, he succeed to find meaning without the easy concept of god.</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2019/04/23 (Tue) 02:24:06 #5826
	"All the writers you mentioned have religious themes throughout their works". i never meant they did not have religious theme. it was a mean to show you that meaning did not need a fantasy world to be accessible. meaning of religion is making like shiny and exposed what is obvious, it was an example that religion's world comparison with a realistic/ materialistic world is a shitty N/S distinction. if you are not able to understand that, maybe you are the retarded one. "deism isn't monotheism, deists believe some "higher power" once created the universe and never intervened after unlike christianity, judaism, islam.. it has nothing to do with a "search for meaning" and there's no central figures, divine judgement or interventions, nor with the modern religions you're moving so bravely against" deism is the believe in a god (or many). theism =/= Deism. "N isn't intelligent or perceptive by default, S isn't stupid by default, and your opinions on religion are the same as those of a teenage boy that has just discovered Christopher Hitchens." i never said N was intelligent by default or sensor stupid by default. i have been opposed to this intuitive bias and quoted hobbes and Burke to go against it. you can ask to kawaii. you are using a sophism right here, you want to disqualify my opinion based on other people who share it instead of argumenting against it.

Editing post #5826 by fg <p>"All the writers you mentioned have religious themes throughout their works". i never meant they did not have religious theme. it was a mean to show you that meaning did not need a fantasy world to be accessible. meaning of religion is making like shiny and exposed what is obvious, it was an example that religion's world comparison with a realistic/ materialistic world is a shitty N/S distinction. if you are not able to understand that, maybe you are the retarded one. </p> <p>"deism isn't monotheism, deists believe some "higher power" once created the universe and never intervened after unlike christianity, judaism, islam.. it has nothing to do with a "search for meaning" and there's no central figures, divine judgement or interventions, nor with the modern religions you're moving so bravely against" deism is the believe in a god (or many).</p> <p>theism =/= Deism.</p> <p>"N isn't intelligent or perceptive by default, S isn't stupid by default, and your opinions on religion are the same as those of a teenage boy that has just discovered Christopher Hitchens." i never said N was intelligent by default or sensor stupid by default. i have been opposed to this intuitive bias and quoted hobbes and Burke to go against it. you can ask to kawaii. you are using a sophism right here, you want to disqualify my opinion based on other people who share it instead of argumenting against it.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p>
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Teru Mikami 2019/04/22 (Mon) 19:14:48 #5823
deism isn't monotheism, deists believe some "higher power" once created the universe and never intervened after unlike christianity, judaism, islam.. it has nothing to do with a "search for meaning" and there's no central figures, divine judgement or interventions, nor with the modern religions you're moving so bravely against

Editing post #5823 by Teru Mikami <p>deism isn't monotheism, deists believe some "higher power" once created the universe and never intervened after unlike christianity, judaism, islam.. it has nothing to do with a "search for meaning" and there's no central figures, divine judgement or interventions, nor with the modern religions you're moving so bravely against</p>
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	Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE 2019/04/22 (Mon) 17:45:38 #5822
	All the writers you mentioned have religious themes throughout their works, you edgy french retard. Especially Dostoevsky, imagine bringing up the guy who wrote The Brothers Karamazov to back up that argument. N isn't intelligent or perceptive by default, S isn't stupid by default, and your opinions on religion are the same as those of a teenage boy that has just discovered Christopher Hitchens.

Editing post #5822 by Jacobus <p>All the writers you mentioned have religious themes throughout their works, you edgy french retard. Especially Dostoevsky, imagine bringing up the guy who wrote The Brothers Karamazov to back up that argument. N isn't intelligent or perceptive by default, S isn't stupid by default, and your opinions on religion are the same as those of a teenage boy that has just discovered Christopher Hitchens.</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2019/04/22 (Mon) 16:34:17 #5821
	"Religion is the belief in a higher power that is beyond the purely sensual, so it is actually more N in nature." N are able to see meaning and higher power beyond sense in the real world. most of them don't need religion to see sense. most of greatest N author created book in "realistic" universe (dostoviesky, kafka, Victor Hugo, Balzac etc...) because being N is about interpretation far more than believe in something that don't exist. higher meaning beyond sense are easy to found. S are the one most likely to need an imaginary world to see those higher meaning (created by Ns most of time i agree with it). religion is the meaning for those who can't find it themselves.

Editing post #5821 by fg <p>"Religion is the belief in a higher power that is beyond the purely sensual, so it is actually more N in nature." N are able to see meaning and higher power beyond sense in the real world. most of them don't need religion to see sense. most of greatest N author created book in "realistic" universe (dostoviesky, kafka, Victor Hugo, Balzac etc...) because being N is about interpretation far more than believe in something that don't exist. higher meaning beyond sense are easy to found. S are the one most likely to need an imaginary world to see those higher meaning (created by Ns most of time i agree with it). religion is the meaning for those who can't find it themselves.</p>
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Teru Mikami 2019/04/22 (Mon) 14:06:33 #5818
nope the amount of symbolism and hidden meaning in religious works is completely obsolete because of SJ retard who believe in fairy tale. INTJ atheists are smart they believe in real concepts like eternal return predeterminism which are proven scientific consensus. Religion is for SJ commonplace conformist sheep sorry to burst your bubble.

Editing post #5818 by Teru Mikami <p>nope the amount of symbolism and hidden meaning in religious works is completely obsolete because of SJ retard who believe in fairy tale. INTJ atheists are smart they believe in real concepts like eternal return predeterminism which are proven scientific consensus. Religion is for SJ commonplace conformist sheep sorry to burst your bubble.</p>
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	Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE 2019/04/22 (Mon) 12:40:52 #5816
	Deism is not theism. Deism is a particular form of thought that resulted from the Enlightenment, which posits that God does not interact with mankind and is simply a distant engineer of the universe. I find your insistence that religion is mostly for S types unusual considering that the majority of the great religious leaders and theologians have been N types (Jesus, Siddartha Gautama, Augustine, Ghazali, Luther, etc.). Religion is the belief in a higher power that is beyond the purely sensual, so it is actually more N in nature.

Editing post #5816 by Jacobus <p>Deism is not theism. Deism is a particular form of thought that resulted from the Enlightenment, which posits that God does not interact with mankind and is simply a distant engineer of the universe. I find your insistence that religion is mostly for S types unusual considering that the majority of the great religious leaders and theologians have been N types (Jesus, Siddartha Gautama, Augustine, Ghazali, Luther, etc.). Religion is the belief in a higher power that is beyond the purely sensual, so it is actually more N in nature.</p>
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date	username	vote
19/11/27 13:10	fleetingpetals	INFJ
19/05/19 02:26	INTJ-2698	xNTx
19/04/22 14:07	Teru Mikami	INxJ
21/08/11 15:32	Tman	INTP
20/07/26 00:21	LadyX	INTP
19/04/22 23:50	Taco110	INTP
19/04/23 05:01	Diobono	INTx

date	username	vote
19/05/27 01:35	Taco110	INTP
19/10/03 11:50	Tman	INTP

date	username	vote
19/05/19 02:26	INTJ-2698	5wb
21/08/11 15:32	Tman	5wb
20/07/26 00:21	LadyX	5w4

date	username	vote
20/07/26 00:21	LadyX	sp/so
19/04/22 23:50	Taco110	sp/so
19/09/06 12:23	Tman	sp/so

date	username	vote
20/07/26 00:21	LadyX	541
19/06/03 15:07	Tman	514

date	username	vote
19/11/27 13:10	fleetingpetals	LII
19/05/19 02:26	INTJ-2698	LII
19/04/22 23:50	Taco110	LII
19/04/04 23:16	tman	LII

date	username	vote
20/04/08 14:51	fleetingpetals1	LVEF
20/01/04 12:23	Tman	LVEF