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	KashifIrfanBhatti INTJ 5w6 LII-Ti 2020/07/23 (Thu) 19:07:23 #8399
	In response to post #8398. These are pretty good arguments, and bring forth a lot to learn. I do vote him 531, and would consider him more J than P too, so it's obviously a case of misinformation in terms of the subtypes for me, something I'm newer at. Though I would consider myself relatively newer to Socionics itself too. As for the point regarding your own statement. "I really don't think he had Ignoring Ni, I believe POLR Se fits better than Fi, that he was more about possibilities within logical system than outside of them (most of his ideas were even internal, and the most important one in my opinion would be the alternating current - but then that could fit demonstrative Te better than ignoring Te but the way Tesla himself saw it makes me believe ignoring - was more about a logical possibility within a quite well defined system and at the time it seemed useless (Thomas Edison, LSE with an extreme use of Te and his view on it with a general extreme lack of Ni while Tesla would probably fit 4D)." This is what I took into account. By 'conflict', the conflict of their methods was meant. 4D Ni vs 1D Ni for one, as well as that of latter's preference of Te, which is why he managed to accomplish a lot, unlike the former, who didn't care as much about his patents being capitalised by others. Also I didn't associate eccentricity with being in tune with one's bodily sensations or having an organised ethic. Though I did correlate the latter two. And the mention of eccentricity was a counter-argument against the stereotype of eccentric people being more Ni/Ne base. The points of him valuing conscientiousness over openness ultimately do suggest Ti over Ne. Thanks for the additional detail too, of which I did know a little bunch.

Editing post #8399 by KashifIrfanBhatti These are pretty good arguments, and bring forth a lot to learn. I do vote him 531, and would consider him more J than P too, so it's obviously a case of misinformation in terms of the subtypes for me, something I'm newer at. Though I would consider myself relatively newer to Socionics itself too. <br><br>As for the point regarding your own statement. "I really don't think he had Ignoring Ni, I believe POLR Se fits better than Fi, that he was more about possibilities within logical system than outside of them (most of his ideas were even internal, and the most important one in my opinion would be the alternating current - but then that could fit demonstrative Te better than ignoring Te but the way Tesla himself saw it makes me believe ignoring - was more about a logical possibility within a quite well defined system and at the time it seemed useless (Thomas Edison, LSE with an extreme use of Te and his view on it with a general extreme lack of Ni while Tesla would probably fit 4D)." This is what I took into account. By 'conflict', the conflict of their methods was meant. 4D Ni vs 1D Ni for one, as well as that of latter's preference of Te, which is why he managed to accomplish a lot, unlike the former, who didn't care as much about his patents being capitalised by others. <br><br>Also I didn't associate eccentricity with being in tune with one's bodily sensations or having an organised ethic. Though I did correlate the latter two. And the mention of eccentricity was a counter-argument against the stereotype of eccentric people being more Ni/Ne base. <br><br>The points of him valuing conscientiousness over openness ultimately do suggest Ti over Ne. Thanks for the additional detail too, of which I did know a little bunch. <br><br><br>
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	KashifIrfanBhatti INTJ 5w6 LII-Ti 2020/07/19 (Sun) 14:25:39 #8379
	Why LII-Ne works much better than ILE: Too in-tune with his body and sensations to have 1D Si. Despite being very eccentric he had a strong work ethic, and followed routinely exercises. Plus his creativity was motivated, to a degree, by his inner imaginations and abstractions, which wouldn't make sense for ignoring Ni either. On the other end, as pointed out earlier by phsc, ignoring Te makes much more sense, especially if his conflict with Edison is taken into account. And not only was their conflict dependent on Tesla's ignoring Te and Edison's Te base, but also on the former's 4D/demonstrative Ni, and the latter's 1D/PoLR Ni. Tesla had a great overview of the potential itself, and had vivid assumptions. And of course his Ne was almost as good as that of Ne bases, but he was still more of an analytical learner, and a greatly organised mind who wanted to perfect his craft in the few fields that he studied deeply, he also didn't have the Ne base attribute of starting more projects than finishing either, let's compare him to Elon Musk for one, who clearly has demonstrative Te alongside too, and is someone who starts way too many, unrelated projects. Comparatively, Tesla's goals and aims were much more focused and singular. That aside, his heightened sensing and attention to physical detail is reminiscent of mobilizing Si, and it's obvious that Tesla didn't thrive in drama and enjoyment much either, comparatively, which reduces the chances of ILE further. His ideas focused way too much on the possibilities regarding a logical system, and were highly principle-based, which fits PoLR Se much more. An ILE would have much more variety in terms of where they construct their ideas, Tesla didn't, and was obsessed with a few of the things' principles (alternating current for one).

Editing post #8379 by KashifIrfanBhatti Why LII-Ne works much better than ILE:<br><br>Too in-tune with his body and sensations to have 1D Si. Despite being very eccentric he had a strong work ethic, and followed routinely exercises. Plus his creativity was motivated, to a degree, by his inner imaginations and abstractions, which wouldn't make sense for ignoring Ni either. On the other end, as pointed out earlier by phsc, ignoring Te makes much more sense, especially if his conflict with Edison is taken into account. And not only was their conflict dependent on Tesla's ignoring Te and Edison's Te base, but also on the former's 4D/demonstrative Ni, and the latter's 1D/PoLR Ni. Tesla had a great overview of the potential itself, and had vivid assumptions. <br><br>And of course his Ne was almost as good as that of Ne bases, but he was still more of an analytical learner, and a greatly organised mind who wanted to perfect his craft in the few fields that he studied deeply, he also didn't have the Ne base attribute of starting more projects than finishing either, let's compare him to Elon Musk for one, who clearly has demonstrative Te alongside too, and is someone who starts way too many, unrelated projects. Comparatively, Tesla's goals and aims were much more focused and singular. <br><br>That aside, his heightened sensing and attention to physical detail is reminiscent of mobilizing Si, and it's obvious that Tesla didn't thrive in drama and enjoyment much either, comparatively, which reduces the chances of ILE further. His ideas focused way too much on the possibilities regarding a logical system, and were highly principle-based, which fits PoLR Se much more. An ILE would have much more variety in terms of where they construct their ideas, Tesla didn't, and was obsessed with a few of the things' principles (alternating current for one).
Replying to post #8379 by KashifIrfanBhatti

date	username	vote
23/01/18 13:40	GIJOEBusta Cap	INTJ
20/08/24 16:20	Adramelech	INTJ
20/08/14 18:17	Thyssen	INTJ
20/07/12 23:29	Flower-like	INTJ
20/04/14 09:34	KashifIrfanBhatti	INTJ
20/03/30 19:09	bibliology	INTJ
20/03/22 21:24	Jacobus	INTJ
19/05/17 05:19	fsninetwo	INTJ
19/05/17 03:06	INTJ-2698	INTJ
19/04/01 09:09	Taco110	INTJ
18/11/13 17:10	tch	INTJ
18/10/24 23:42	LadyX	INTJ
18/09/09 13:36	Teru Mikami	INTJ

date	username	vote
25/07/07 23:47	nicotineseries	INTJ
25/07/01 23:45	Woll Smoth	INTJ
23/01/18 13:40	GIJOEBusta Cap	INTJ
20/08/24 16:19	Adramelech	INTJ
20/08/14 18:17	Thyssen	INTJ
20/07/12 23:29	Flower-like	INTJ
20/04/14 09:34	KashifIrfanBhatti	INTJ
19/08/10 02:39	Lol	INTJ
19/05/17 05:19	fsninetwo	INTJ
19/05/17 03:06	INTJ-2698	INTJ
19/04/01 09:09	Taco110	INTJ
19/03/31 18:10	Phantom	INTJ
19/02/17 20:38	tch	INTJ
18/09/09 15:01	fg	INTJ

date	username	vote
25/07/01 23:45	Woll Smoth	5w6
23/01/18 13:40	GIJOEBusta Cap	5w6
20/08/24 16:19	Adramelech	5w6
20/08/14 18:17	Thyssen	5w6
20/07/23 19:36	tch	5w6
20/04/14 09:34	KashifIrfanBhatti	5w6
20/03/30 19:09	bibliology	5w6
20/03/22 21:24	Jacobus	5w6
19/08/10 02:39	Lol	5w6
19/05/17 05:19	fsninetwo	5w6
19/05/17 03:06	INTJ-2698	5w6
19/04/01 09:09	Taco110	5w6
18/10/24 23:41	LadyX	5w4
18/09/09 13:36	Teru Mikami	5w6

date	username	vote
23/01/18 13:40	GIJOEBusta Cap	sp/so
20/11/21 02:34	Azdual	sp/so
20/08/14 18:17	Thyssen	sp/so
20/07/23 19:36	tch	sp/so
20/04/14 09:34	KashifIrfanBhatti	sp/so
20/03/30 19:14	bibliology	sp/so
19/05/17 05:19	fsninetwo	sp/so
19/04/01 09:09	Taco110	sp/so
18/10/24 23:43	LadyX	sp/so

date	username	vote
25/07/01 23:45	Woll Smoth	531
20/08/24 16:19	Adramelech	531
20/08/14 18:17	Thyssen	531
20/07/23 19:36	tch	531
20/04/14 09:34	KashifIrfanBhatti	531

date	username	vote
23/01/18 13:40	GIJOEBusta Cap	LII
22/03/30 18:42	Woll Smoth	LII
20/08/24 16:19	Adramelech	LII
20/08/14 18:17	Thyssen	LII
20/04/14 09:34	KashifIrfanBhatti	LII
20/02/02 19:09	Zazu	LII
19/10/19 01:50	ethan	LII
19/09/22 22:39	Lol	LII
19/09/22 22:52	Taco110	LII
19/05/06 20:25	Avalonia	LII
19/03/31 18:11	Phantom	ILE
19/03/31 17:07	tch	ILE
18/09/09 15:00	fg	ILE
19/09/02 12:53	Teru Mikami	LII

date	username	vote
25/08/16 04:19	Woll Smoth	LVFE
20/08/16 20:33	Lol	LVFE
20/08/14 18:17	Thyssen	LVFE
20/07/23 19:36	tch	LVFE
20/05/13 04:45	kashifirfanbhatti	LVFE

date	username	vote
20/07/23 19:36	tch	HEXACO