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Edmund Burke

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Edmund Burke ~ Sakinorva Databank

Edmund Burke

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Philosophy, Psychology, and Social Sciences

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	Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE 2020/03/07 (Sat) 01:44:41 #7761
	what an awful attempt at a counterargument 1. No. There are few philosophers more clearly Te than Aristotle. The Plato/Aristotle rift was basically Ti vs Te. That's irrelevant to this page anyway. 2. Literally nothing written here is necessarily related to type. In what way was Bacon a PROGRESSIVE or a liberal anyway?

Editing post #7761 by Jacobus <p>what an awful attempt at a counterargument</p> <p>1. No. There are few philosophers more clearly Te than Aristotle. The Plato/Aristotle rift was basically Ti vs Te. That's irrelevant to this page anyway.</p> <p>2. Literally nothing written here is necessarily related to type. In what way was Bacon a PROGRESSIVE or a liberal anyway?</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2020/03/07 (Sat) 01:27:04 #7759
	1: Aristotle is not Gamma (he is LII) 2: his opposition to french revolution is more indicating of the Te/Fi spirit of british who can't stand the structuralist/ rationalist white logic of France than anything else. socionist like talanov maintain that LSE oftenremain attached to the democratic system. LIE are not conservative but progressist (like Bacon for example). LSE are conservative but not reactionnary (like Merkel or Burke). you maked an argument that could discredit Burke as LSI. Big news, no one voted him as.

Editing post #7759 by fg <p>1: Aristotle is not Gamma (he is LII)</p> <p>2: his opposition to french revolution is more indicating of the Te/Fi spirit of british who can't stand the structuralist/ rationalist white logic of France than anything else. socionist like talanov maintain that LSE oftenremain attached to the democratic system. LIE are not conservative but progressist (like Bacon for example). LSE are conservative but not reactionnary (like Merkel or Burke). you maked an argument that could discredit Burke as LSI. Big news, no one voted him as.</p>
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	Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE 2020/03/06 (Fri) 21:02:45 #7758
	I can't claim any surety on how this apparent agreement on Burke's type came about, but I'll have to assume it's simply because someone read Reflections on the Revolution in France, decided on it without consulting any other works, and was able to sway some others who were pliable enough. An understandable mistake, but still a mistake. I haven't yet read On the Revolution in France, but I have read On the Sublime and the Beautiful and I feel the smattering of research I've done on Burke is adequate for me to come to a conclusion. He wasn't at all a haughty and fearful arch-conservative, but a lover of liberty and justice who believed that the idealism of the Jacobins doomed the Revolution to tyranny. He was really more of a British rationalist Goethe than anything else, he seems a rather magnanimous and fair-minded person. He values practicality, yes, but in a Gamma manner, not a Delta manner (he actually seems to quote Aristotle a lot). He doesn't hate metaphysics and abstraction (or what he refers to as such), only what he saw as their hypocritical and dangerous application in the French Revolution. https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Burke,_Edmund

Editing post #7758 by Jacobus <p>I can't claim any surety on how this apparent agreement on Burke's type came about, but I'll have to assume it's simply because someone read <em>Reflections on the Revolution in France</em>, decided on it without consulting any other works, and was able to sway some others who were pliable enough. An understandable mistake, but still a mistake. I haven't yet read <em>On the Revolution in France</em>, but I have read <em>On the Sublime and the Beautiful</em> and I feel the smattering of research I've done on Burke is adequate for me to come to a conclusion. He wasn't at all a haughty and fearful arch-conservative, but a lover of liberty and justice who believed that the idealism of the Jacobins doomed the Revolution to tyranny. He was really more of a British rationalist Goethe than anything else, he seems a rather magnanimous and fair-minded person. He values practicality, yes, but in a Gamma manner, not a Delta manner (he actually seems to quote Aristotle a lot). He doesn't hate metaphysics and abstraction (or what he refers to as such), only what he saw as their hypocritical and dangerous application in the French Revolution.</p> <p><a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Burke,_Edmund">https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/1911_Encyclop%C3%A6dia_Britannica/Burke,_Edmund</a></p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2018/06/04 (Mon) 11:41:01 #985
	we can see clearly the difference between ESTJ And ENTJ by comparing him to Aristotle. both are highly focused on pragmatic decision who depnd on circumstances and that answer to a need. but Aristotle is more focused on eternity and Metaphysic, on another side Burke despise Metaphysics and abstraction and was the precursor of historicism.

Editing post #985 by fg <p>we can see clearly the difference between ESTJ And ENTJ by comparing him to Aristotle. both are highly focused on pragmatic decision who depnd on circumstances and that answer to a need. but Aristotle is more focused on eternity and Metaphysic, on another side Burke despise Metaphysics and abstraction and was the precursor of historicism.</p>
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date	username	vote
22/04/13 02:47	GIJOEBusta Cap	ESTJ
21/01/09 15:32	Helvetica	ESTJ
20/03/06 19:49	Jacobus	ENTJ
19/12/11 22:50	Tman	T
19/03/15 22:50	Taco110	ESTJ

date	username	vote
22/04/13 02:47	GIJOEBusta Cap	ESTJ
22/04/04 22:59	Woll Smoth	ENTP
21/01/09 15:32	Helvetica	ESTJ
20/03/06 19:49	Jacobus	ENTP
19/05/20 23:32	Taco110	ESTJ
18/08/03 05:02	fg	ESTJ

date	username	vote
22/04/13 02:47	GIJOEBusta Cap	1w9
21/01/09 15:32	Helvetica	1w9
19/03/15 22:50	Taco110	1w9
18/06/04 11:35	fg	1w9

date	username	vote
22/04/13 02:47	GIJOEBusta Cap	so/sp
21/01/09 15:32	Helvetica	so/sp
19/03/15 22:50	Taco110	so/sp
18/06/04 11:35	fg	so/sp

date	username	vote
21/01/09 15:32	Helvetica	163

date	username	vote
22/04/13 02:47	GIJOEBusta Cap	LSE
22/04/04 22:59	Woll Smoth	LSE
21/01/09 15:32	Helvetica	LSE
20/03/06 19:49	Jacobus	LIE
19/05/20 23:32	Taco110	LSE
18/06/04 11:35	fg	LSE

date	username	vote
20/03/06 19:21	Jacobus	FVLE