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Patrick Bateman

American Psycho

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Patrick Bateman ~ Sakinorva Databank

Patrick Bateman

American Psycho

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	switchblades INFP delete 2018/10/10 (Wed) 10:01:07 #3603
	Also another argument against vulnerable Si, yet not from Bateman himself but from a person who has read the book and analyzed his character. "He spends a lot of time describing what clothes, shoes, and accessories he and other people wear, always in terms of brand names. The same goes for furniture, bathroom products, music equipment, kitchen utilities, art etc. A lot of time is spent at restaurants where he mentions what everyone is having exactly, while never a word is said about the taste let alone the enjoyment of all this high-quality food. Often the food isn't even eaten. This is of course not in the movie."

Editing post #3603 by switchblades <p>Also another argument against vulnerable Si, yet not from Bateman himself but from a person who has read the book and analyzed his character.</p> <p> </p> <p> </p> <p><em>"He spends a lot of time describing what clothes, shoes, and accessories he and other people wear, always in terms of brand names. The same goes for furniture, bathroom products, music equipment, kitchen utilities, art etc. A lot of time is spent at restaurants where he mentions what everyone is having exactly, while never a word is said about the taste </em><em>let</em><em> alone the enjoyment of all this high-quality food. Often the food isn't even eaten. This is of course not in the movie."</em></p>
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	switchblades INFP delete 2018/10/10 (Wed) 09:57:10 #3602
	Movie adaption might seem more "LIE" but I think the source material should be the basis for typing him on first, before the film. He's an LSI I think. Much too focused on the details of things in his environment to be a Si vulnerable type. This quote of his from the book seems very Ni though. “Where there was nature and earth, life and water, I saw a desert landscape that was unending, resembling some sort of crater, so devoid of reason and light and spirit that the mind could not grasp it on any sort of conscious level and if you came close the mind would reel backward, unable to take it in. It was a vision so clear and real and vital to me that in its purity it was almost abstract. This was what I could understand, this was how I lived my life, what I constructed my movement around, how I dealt with the tangible. This was the geography around which my reality revolved: it did not occur to me, ever, that people were good or that a man was capable of change or that the world could be a better place through one’s own taking pleasure in a feeling or a look or a gesture, of receiving another person’s love or kindness. Nothing was affirmative, the term “generosity of spirit” applied to nothing, was a cliche, was some kind of bad joke. Sex is mathematics. Individuality no longer an issue. What does intelligence signify? Define reason. Desire- meaningless. Intellect is not a cure. Justice is dead. Fear, recrimination, innocence, sympathy, guilt, waste, failure, grief, were things, emotions, that no one really felt anymore. Reflection is useless, the world is senseless. Evil is its only permanence. God is not alive. Love cannot be trusted. Surface, surface, surface, was all that anyone found meaning in…this was civilization as I saw it, colossal and jagged…”

Editing post #3602 by switchblades <p>Movie adaption might seem more "LIE" but I think the source material should be the basis for typing him on first, before the film. He's an LSI I think. Much too focused on the details of things in his environment to be a Si vulnerable type.</p> <p>This quote of his from the book seems very Ni though. </p> <p><em>“Where there was nature and earth, life and water, I saw a desert landscape that was unending, resembling some sort of crater, so devoid of reason and light and spirit that the mind could not grasp it on any sort of conscious level and if you came close the mind would reel backward, unable to take it in. It was a vision so clear and real and vital to me that in its purity it was almost abstract. This was what I could understand, this was how I lived my life, what I constructed my movement around, how I dealt with the tangible. This was the geography around which my reality revolved: it did not occur to me, ever, that people were good or that a man was capable of change or that the world could be a better place through one’s own taking pleasure in a feeling or a look or a gesture, of receiving another person’s love or kindness. Nothing was affirmative, the term “generosity of spirit” applied to nothing, was a cliche, was some kind of bad joke. Sex is mathematics. Individuality no longer an issue. What does intelligence signify? Define reason. Desire- meaningless. Intellect is not a cure. Justice is dead. Fear, recrimination, innocence, sympathy, guilt, waste, failure, grief, were things, emotions, that no one really felt anymore. Reflection is useless, the world is senseless. Evil is its only permanence. God is not alive. Love cannot be trusted. Surface, surface, surface, was all that anyone found meaning in…this was civilization as I saw it, colossal and jagged…” </em></p>
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Doha INTJ 6w5 2018/05/21 (Mon) 11:12:02 #677
Personally I think he was more a 4w3 than a 3w4. He placed too much emphasis on personal cultivation of sophistication rather than professional cutthroat behavior as does a 3w4. 3w4 cares less about personal qualities and appearance and more on their work. Also he never killed anyone, he just fantasized throughout about it, in the movie. He was always in his head only, making up fantasies. Also in the end of the movie he experienced a classic unhealthy 2 disintegration. there are more similarities between a 3w2 and a 4w3 rather than a 3w2 and a 3w4.

Editing post #677 by Doha <p>Personally I think he was more a 4w3 than a 3w4. He placed too much emphasis on personal cultivation of sophistication rather than professional cutthroat behavior as does a 3w4. 3w4 cares less about personal qualities and appearance and more on their work. Also he never killed anyone, he just fantasized throughout about it, in the movie. He was always in his head only, making up fantasies. Also in the end of the movie he experienced a classic unhealthy 2 disintegration. there are more similarities between a 3w2 and a 4w3 rather than a 3w2 and a 3w4. </p>
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date	username	vote
22/05/20 09:13	rock and roll	ESTJ
22/03/05 13:11	GIJOEBusta Cap	ENTJ
21/02/15 18:07	masterofpuppets2934	ENTJ
21/01/12 13:00	Jacobus	ENTJ
19/09/03 13:21	Task	ESTJ
18/11/30 20:55	twinpinks	ENTJ
18/10/10 09:50	switchblades	ENTJ
18/05/25 05:30	Taco110	ENTJ
18/05/21 11:01	Doha	ENFJ
18/05/03 09:20	the heart marksman	ENTJ

date	username	vote
25/07/04 00:05	nicotineseries	ESTP
23/01/04 02:42	rock and roll	ENTJ
22/03/19 23:07	Woll Smoth	ESTP
23/02/10 10:12	GIJOEBusta Cap	ESTP
21/01/12 13:00	Jacobus	ENTJ
20/06/07 19:27	Sean91939	ENTJ
19/09/03 13:22	Task	ESTJ
19/05/24 16:19	Taco110	ESTP
18/10/10 09:51	switchblades	ESTP

date	username	vote
22/05/20 09:13	rock and roll	3w4
22/02/26 13:49	GIJOEBusta Cap	3w4
21/01/12 13:00	Jacobus	3w4
20/06/07 19:27	Sean91939	3w4
19/09/03 13:21	Task	3w4
19/05/24 16:12	Lol	3w4
18/10/10 09:51	switchblades	3w4
18/05/25 05:30	Taco110	3w4
18/05/21 11:01	Doha	4w3
18/05/03 09:20	the heart marksman	3w4

date	username	vote
22/05/20 09:13	rock and roll	sx/so
22/02/26 13:49	GIJOEBusta Cap	so/sx
21/01/12 13:00	Jacobus	so/sx
20/06/07 19:27	Sean91939	so/sx
18/10/10 09:50	switchblades	so/sx
18/05/25 05:30	Taco110	so/sx
18/05/03 09:20	the heart marksman	so/sx

date	username	vote
20/06/07 19:27	Sean91939	358

date	username	vote
25/07/17 10:22	nicotineseries	LSI
22/05/20 09:13	rock and roll	LSI
22/02/26 13:49	GIJOEBusta Cap	LSI
21/02/15 18:07	masterofpuppets2934	SLE
20/06/18 18:44	Sean91939	LSI
18/10/10 09:50	switchblades	LSI
18/05/25 05:30	Taco110	LIE

date	username	vote
21/01/12 13:00	Jacobus	FLVE
20/01/12 16:41	Phantom	FLVE