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Gwen Stefani

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Gwen Stefani

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	Woll Smoth 2025/07/16 (Wed) 13:36:53 #10141
	My argument for IDRlabs to move Gwen Stefani to ESFP: Extroverted Perception Stefani: "In the beginning ... I didn't know what I was doing at all, and I still don't. I kinda just get up there [on stage] and just do whatever comes out." Stefani: "Well, I think we didn't even realize that we were doing this. We just kinda got here and were like, 'okay, let's go.' It's kinda fun though when you don't really realize what you're doing sometimes." Stefani: "Every night's different. You can't tell if it's gonna be a good show or a bad show. That's what's kind of exciting, I guess, about it. You never know, [you just] get up there and see what happens." Stefani: "We're just trying to enjoy every second of it while it's here, and we don't take one day for granted. It's just like everybody wants to be nice to us now and be our friends, and we're like, 'Okay! Tomorrow you probably won't like us, but that's cool. We'll take it while we can get it'." Stefani: "No breaks here [on tour], but that's okay." [Interviewer: "Performing with a broken foot; you're a trooper."] Stefani: "We all [at the band] are [troopers] here. We've been working really hard, but this is our little chance, so we're trying to take advantage of it, you know?" [Interviewer: "It's incredible to me that you don't have this grandmaster plan..."] Stefani: "I don't have a plan; it's been basically chasing dangling carrots everywhere I look." All else being equal, the quotes above showcase a preference for extroverted perception (Se/Ne) over introverted perception (Si/Ni). Moreover, if we had to pick between Se or Ne, the quotes fit Se better on the whole as it is the Se type that is the type most likely to make the most out of the given situation without mulling over it. Ne types can often get too caught up in their introspection and associations in contrast to the Se type's more (non-typological) intuitive approach of feeling the actual external situation to the fullest (as exemplified by most of the quotes). As Mary Arrington (in her article: ESFP vs ENFP, Part 2) has stated about Ne types, "because of [their] focus on multiple possible perspectives on reality at the same time, ENPs are actually quite poor at dealing with situations where it is necessary to engage with factual reality as it is happening here and now, and they can sometimes fail to take advantage of the opportunities they come across when compared with Se types." Another thing to consider is that Ne (or just N in general), as stated by Myers, views the "immediate situation as a prison from which escape is urgently necessary," meaning that, as Boye Akinwande puts it, "NP types constantly feel a need to escape and transcend the immediate givens of any situation, even if they do not quite know how such an escape could be achieved" (for the Ne type, one of the ways this can often manifest in them is seeking ulterior viewpoints), as opposed to Se typically preferring to stay with the actual experience and be acquainted with the opportunities that arise in present reality (as exemplified by most of the quotes). Now, obviously one can find real-life examples of transcendent Se types and more immediate-inclined Ne types, so this first section obviously isn't my main argument but rather just a starter. Why Se over Ne Now getting more into the actual meat of the argument. As mentioned above, while the quotes in the first section may arguably lean more towards Se on the whole, it didn't really rule out Ne (as I mentioned). One might ask while reading this 'Well do you have a more concrete example of Gwen Stefani showcasing a preference for Se over Ne?' and I say yes to that! Just as IDRlabs have said that Frank Ocean "avoids conceptualizations and associations in interviews" as evidence for S over N, same thing applies to Gwen Stefani: [Interviewer: "Gwen, tell me how you got the name 'No Doubt'?"] Stefani: "Well, the band's been together for about five years, and about five years ago, a guy that used to sing with us, which doesn't anymore, used to say this word, and so now that is the word we use. A really simple story, not really complex at all." [Interviewer: "You got different lyrics and then completely different style, where does that come from?"] Stefani: "You might wanna ask Eric about the lyrics as he does a lot of the writing and he's down there." As IDRlabs have stated "a person is unlikely to just sit idly by as a subject pertaining to his or her dominant function comes up. It’s like a cat seeing a big chunk of red meat just lying around. One’s imagination is stimulated and one is moved to participate – to dig in and grab a chunk of meat for oneself." Her answers are not exactly what one would expect from an N dominant type, right? In the 2 examples above (both of which are from the same interview), she avoided 2 opportunities for "conceptualizations and associations". I have another example of her Se preference below: [Interviewer: "How do you describe your sense of style?"] Stefani: "I don't. I always hate talking about fashion, I swear. To me, fashion is something you don't talk about, it's something you do, you know what I mean? [Fashion is something] you wear and you look at." Based on this, we can infer that her "cognition tends to be more drawn towards objects as they exist physically, experiencing them in their entirety and as they are" (As Boye Akinwande has about Se in his article: ISTP vs INTP). In this case, she doesn't "bypass" the object (in this case, fashion) to get to its associations but rather views the object as something that stands on its own terms and merits. One could also argue that there is also a bit of Fi in this quote too. Furthermore, according to IDRlabs, Se "operate[s] off of phenomena that are ... capable of standing on their own (i.e. being thought more 'self-evident')" whereas Ne "combine[s] different (and differing) perspectives to comprise elements in the illustration of an abstract idea". Out of those descriptions, which do you think fits Gwen Stefani more based on the examples I provided? Want another quote that suggests Se? Stefani: "To be from Orange County and try to play in LA, it was like taboo, kind of because they were like, you know, 'Oh, behind the Orange Curtain, blah blah blah.' But if you really look at it, it's all one big concrete thing. If you drive to Orange County, it's not like you're going to go through fields or anything." Overall, the quote seems to suggest a person with a marked preference for actuality as opposed to conceptualization or abstract association. That is to say that she prefers to see the actual existence of things (the physical reality of the situation as opposed to what was intended, expected, or believed). In this case, she is emphasizing if one looks at it objectively, there is no significant physical or geographical barrier between LA and Orange County (referring to it as "one big concrete thing") despite all the history and preconceived notions between the 2 cultures. It should be noted that cognitive processes are theoretical symbols for trying to explain certain preferences rather than ability, that is to say that Gwen Stefani isn't incapable of "Ne stuff" but rather she simply prefers "Se stuff". I have examples of Fi if anyone want some but I decided to just keep it Se vs Ne for Stefani.

Editing post #10141 by Woll Smoth My argument for IDRlabs to move Gwen Stefani to ESFP: Extroverted Perception Stefani: "In the beginning ... I didn't know what I was doing at all, and I still don't. I kinda just get up there [on stage] and just do whatever comes out." Stefani: "Well, I think we didn't even realize that we were doing this. We just kinda got here and were like, 'okay, let's go.' It's kinda fun though when you don't really realize what you're doing sometimes." Stefani: "Every night's different. You can't tell if it's gonna be a good show or a bad show. That's what's kind of exciting, I guess, about it. You never know, [you just] get up there and see what happens." Stefani: "We're just trying to enjoy every second of it while it's here, and we don't take one day for granted. It's just like everybody wants to be nice to us now and be our friends, and we're like, 'Okay! Tomorrow you probably won't like us, but that's cool. We'll take it while we can get it'." Stefani: "No breaks here [on tour], but that's okay." [Interviewer: "Performing with a broken foot; you're a trooper."] Stefani: "We all [at the band] are [troopers] here. We've been working really hard, but this is our little chance, so we're trying to take advantage of it, you know?" [Interviewer: "It's incredible to me that you don't have this grandmaster plan..."] Stefani: "I don't have a plan; it's been basically chasing dangling carrots everywhere I look." All else being equal, the quotes above showcase a preference for extroverted perception (Se/Ne) over introverted perception (Si/Ni). Moreover, if we had to pick between Se or Ne, the quotes fit Se better on the whole as it is the Se type that is the type most likely to make the most out of the given situation without mulling over it. Ne types can often get too caught up in their introspection and associations in contrast to the Se type's more (non-typological) intuitive approach of feeling the actual external situation to the fullest (as exemplified by most of the quotes). As Mary Arrington (in her article: ESFP vs ENFP, Part 2) has stated about Ne types, "because of [their] focus on multiple possible perspectives on reality at the same time, ENPs are actually quite poor at dealing with situations where it is necessary to engage with factual reality as it is happening here and now, and they can sometimes fail to take advantage of the opportunities they come across when compared with Se types." Another thing to consider is that Ne (or just N in general), as stated by Myers, views the "immediate situation as a prison from which escape is urgently necessary," meaning that, as Boye Akinwande puts it, "NP types constantly feel a need to escape and transcend the immediate givens of any situation, even if they do not quite know how such an escape could be achieved" (for the Ne type, one of the ways this can often manifest in them is seeking ulterior viewpoints), as opposed to Se typically preferring to stay with the actual experience and be acquainted with the opportunities that arise in present reality (as exemplified by most of the quotes). Now, obviously one can find real-life examples of transcendent Se types and more immediate-inclined Ne types, so this first section obviously isn't my main argument but rather just a starter. Why Se over Ne Now getting more into the actual meat of the argument. As mentioned above, while the quotes in the first section may arguably lean more towards Se on the whole, it didn't really rule out Ne (as I mentioned). One might ask while reading this 'Well do you have a more concrete example of Gwen Stefani showcasing a preference for Se over Ne?' and I say yes to that! Just as IDRlabs have said that Frank Ocean "avoids conceptualizations and associations in interviews" as evidence for S over N, same thing applies to Gwen Stefani: [Interviewer: "Gwen, tell me how you got the name 'No Doubt'?"] Stefani: "Well, the band's been together for about five years, and about five years ago, a guy that used to sing with us, which doesn't anymore, used to say this word, and so now that is the word we use. A really simple story, not really complex at all." [Interviewer: "You got different lyrics and then completely different style, where does that come from?"] Stefani: "You might wanna ask Eric about the lyrics as he does a lot of the writing and he's down there." As IDRlabs have stated "a person is unlikely to just sit idly by as a subject pertaining to his or her dominant function comes up. It’s like a cat seeing a big chunk of red meat just lying around. One’s imagination is stimulated and one is moved to participate – to dig in and grab a chunk of meat for oneself." Her answers are not exactly what one would expect from an N dominant type, right? In the 2 examples above (both of which are from the same interview), she avoided 2 opportunities for "conceptualizations and associations". I have another example of her Se preference below: [Interviewer: "How do you describe your sense of style?"] Stefani: "I don't. I always hate talking about fashion, I swear. To me, fashion is something you don't talk about, it's something you do, you know what I mean? [Fashion is something] you wear and you look at." Based on this, we can infer that her "cognition tends to be more drawn towards objects as they exist physically, experiencing them in their entirety and as they are" (As Boye Akinwande has about Se in his article: ISTP vs INTP). In this case, she doesn't "bypass" the object (in this case, fashion) to get to its associations but rather views the object as something that stands on its own terms and merits. One could also argue that there is also a bit of Fi in this quote too. Furthermore, according to IDRlabs, Se "operate[s] off of phenomena that are ... capable of standing on their own (i.e. being thought more 'self-evident')" whereas Ne "combine[s] different (and differing) perspectives to comprise elements in the illustration of an abstract idea". Out of those descriptions, which do you think fits Gwen Stefani more based on the examples I provided? Want another quote that suggests Se? Stefani: "To be from Orange County and try to play in LA, it was like taboo, kind of because they were like, you know, 'Oh, behind the Orange Curtain, blah blah blah.' But if you really look at it, it's all one big concrete thing. If you drive to Orange County, it's not like you're going to go through fields or anything." Overall, the quote seems to suggest a person with a marked preference for actuality as opposed to conceptualization or abstract association. That is to say that she prefers to see the actual existence of things (the physical reality of the situation as opposed to what was intended, expected, or believed). In this case, she is emphasizing if one looks at it objectively, there is no significant physical or geographical barrier between LA and Orange County (referring to it as "one big concrete thing") despite all the history and preconceived notions between the 2 cultures. It should be noted that cognitive processes are theoretical symbols for trying to explain certain preferences rather than ability, that is to say that Gwen Stefani isn't incapable of "Ne stuff" but rather she simply prefers "Se stuff". I have examples of Fi if anyone want some but I decided to just keep it Se vs Ne for Stefani.
Replying to post #10141 by Woll Smoth

	Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 2018/08/17 (Fri) 11:50:59 #2870
	Umm no, there's a difference between performing and pretending o be someone you're not. I already proved how close-minded you guys are. I'm not treating you as a collective you idiot. All I said is you're agressive and dismissive. You both are yes, I didn't insinuate that your positions on anything whatsoever are the same. You're going on a random tangent and making yourself look crazy. You didn't point out what's abstract about her, especially not what's E. You kinda just acknowledged the S aspects but, offered no counter but still stuck to your position anyways. Which is what close-minded means. You wont change your mind when presented with new evidence.

Editing post #2870 by Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys <p>Umm no, there's a difference between performing and pretending o be someone you're not. I already proved how close-minded you guys are. I'm not treating you as a collective you idiot. All I said is you're agressive and dismissive. You both are yes, I didn't insinuate that your positions on anything whatsoever are the same. You're going on a random tangent and making yourself look crazy. You didn't point out what's abstract about her, especially not what's E. You kinda just acknowledged the S aspects but, offered no counter but still stuck to your position anyways. Which is what close-minded means. You wont change your mind when presented with new evidence.</p>
Replying to post #2870 by Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys

	Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 2018/08/17 (Fri) 11:16:44 #2867
	Oh don't play that close-minded crap again with me. You hide behind that when you have no argument. Only reason I'm being so agressive is because Strawberry, you, and others have been so dismissive and combative in the past. Also you disagree with my typing without giving reasons for yours. As for Mike I don't have a strong opinion, I think he acts too much to actually type.

Editing post #2867 by Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys <p>Oh don't play that close-minded crap again with me. You hide behind that when you have no argument. Only reason I'm being so agressive is because Strawberry, you, and others have been so dismissive and combative in the past. Also you disagree with my typing without giving reasons for yours. As for Mike I don't have a strong opinion, I think he acts too much to actually type.</p>
Replying to post #2867 by Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys

	Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys INTP 5w4 2018/08/17 (Fri) 02:57:02 #2860
	She's too quiet to be an E and she's stereotypically S. You idiots are typing her as N cause you think being flashy and making music points towards N. Despite her music being very literal, not deep, and the fact that sensors tend to be more into flashy clothing and overall materialism in general. Despite what StupidBerry Crisis would tell you.

Editing post #2860 by Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys <p>She's too quiet to be an E and she's stereotypically S. You idiots are typing her as N cause you think being flashy and making music points towards N. Despite her music being very literal, not deep, and the fact that sensors tend to be more into flashy clothing and overall materialism in general. Despite what StupidBerry Crisis would tell you.</p>
Replying to post #2860 by Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys

date	username	vote
25/07/01 10:52	Woll Smoth	ESFP
20/01/29 19:34	BitterSweet	ISFP
19/09/03 00:57	LadyX	ESFP
18/09/26 20:43	switchblades	ENFP
18/08/17 11:16	LVNA	ENFP
18/08/16 20:03	Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys	ISFP
18/08/17 11:21	kawaii	ENFx

date	username	vote
25/07/20 06:20	nicotineseries	ESFP
22/03/19 23:58	Woll Smoth	ESFP
20/01/29 19:34	BitterSweet	ISFP
18/08/16 20:04	Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys	ISFP

date	username	vote
25/07/01 10:43	Woll Smoth	6w7
20/01/29 19:34	BitterSweet	3w4
19/09/03 00:57	LadyX	6w7
18/08/16 10:38	kawaii	3w4

date	username	vote
19/09/03 00:57	LadyX	so/sx
18/12/27 17:28	kawaii	so/sx

date	username	vote
25/07/01 10:43	Woll Smoth	639
19/09/03 00:57	LadyX	639
18/12/27 17:41	kawaii	369

date	username	vote
25/07/20 06:20	nicotineseries	ESE
22/03/19 23:58	Woll Smoth	ESE
18/12/01 06:03	Amethyst	ESE
18/09/28 23:35	magnets29	IEE
18/09/26 20:43	switchblades	ESE
18/08/17 11:17	LVNA	ESE
18/08/17 11:20	kawaii	ESE