4-6-8 "The Truth Teller" ~ Sakinorva Databank

4-6-8 "The Truth Teller"

Tritype archetypes

Philosophy, Psychology, and Social Sciences

function

ennea

variant

socio

psyche

INTJ 2

ISTP 2

cp6w5 4

8w9 2

6w5 2

sx/sp 5

sp/sx 1

sx/so 1

EIE 5

ILI 1

SEE 1

SLE 1

SLI 1

LSI 1

ELVF 1

VELF 1

VLEF 1

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	LadyX intp 5 2018/12/11 (Tue) 15:30:56 #4202
	Not sure this discussion belongs in this heading, but the danger of the ESI is intriguing. Think of the damage done each day by the quiet bureaucrat - working hard to derail the efforts of the creative class and the intellectual elites. Anything to maintain status quo and make sure nothing new is ever lauded. The ESI and LSI - so "nice and quiet" ... but there they are... behind the scenes plotting to reduce the stature of the outgoing inventive types. One day you may discover a ESI has hated you for years just because you laughed too loudly and made a boisterous joke. Your loud tone was unforgivable and you were subsequently repeatedly and furtively attacked by the ESI from behind a curtain.

Editing post #4202 by LadyX <p>Not sure this discussion belongs in this heading, but the danger of the ESI is intriguing.</p> <p>Think of the damage done each day by the quiet bureaucrat - working hard to derail the efforts of the creative class and the intellectual elites. Anything to maintain status quo and make sure nothing new is ever lauded.</p> <p>The ESI and LSI - so "nice and quiet" ... but there they are... behind the scenes plotting to reduce the stature of the outgoing inventive types.</p> <p>One day you may discover a ESI has hated you for years just because you laughed too loudly and made a boisterous joke. Your loud tone was unforgivable and you were subsequently repeatedly and furtively attacked by the ESI from behind a curtain.</p>
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Resonare INTJ 1w9 sp/sx ILI-Te 2018/12/11 (Tue) 07:56:42 #4200
Stop making assumptions. Talanov's ESI description - http://sociotoday.narod.ru/ESI.html ESI scored HIGHER than LSI in the following areas: "In fantasy he is less aggressive than in real behavior." (Meaning in reality they are MORE aggressive than they think) "Emotional instability with a tendency to poorly controlled aggressively irritable outbreaks, lack of restraint and poise." "Predisposed to explosive - accumulating explosiveness." "His anger does not calm down for a long time." "In a playful brawl, he becomes distracted, it is difficult to stop in time, including during bathing he liked hooligans and drowned his friends as a joke." "He does not feel "puny" in himself, so he never worries about it."

Editing post #4200 by Resonare <p>Stop making assumptions. Talanov's ESI description - http://sociotoday.narod.ru/ESI.html</p> <p> </p> <p>ESI scored HIGHER than LSI in the following areas:</p> <p> </p> <p>"In fantasy he is less aggressive than in real behavior." (Meaning in reality they are MORE aggressive than they think)</p> <p>"Emotional instability with a tendency to poorly controlled aggressively irritable outbreaks, lack of restraint and poise."</p> <p>"Predisposed to explosive - accumulating explosiveness."</p> <p>"His anger does not calm down for a long time."</p> <p>"In a playful brawl, he becomes distracted, it is difficult to stop in time, including during bathing he liked hooligans and drowned his friends as a joke."</p> <p>"He does not feel "puny" in himself, so he never worries about it."</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2018/12/11 (Tue) 01:21:52 #4199
	"Fg, that's some crock of shit you've managed to pull up right there. How do you even know they've typed the participants correctly?" any empirical data can be prooved wrong times after but it is what we got now. we have to do with it, if we don't want to "And ESI and LSI are impeded to the same degree but by different introverted rational functions. ESI can be absolutely brutal to someone they view as immoral, while LSI can do the same to someone they view as a heretic disturbing society." your problem is right here you base yourself on 16types or http://www.sociotype.com/socionics/ 's description of character instead of using description made by socionist like talanov i never say that black sensing was stronger in LSE or EIE but that ESI's Fi is like a drag for their black sensing's brutality.

Editing post #4199 by fg <p>"Fg, that's some crock of shit you've managed to pull up right there. How do you even know they've typed the participants correctly?"</p> <p>any empirical data can be prooved wrong times after but it is what we got now. we have to do with it, if we don't want to</p> <p>"And ESI and LSI are impeded to the same degree but by different introverted rational functions. ESI can be absolutely brutal to someone they view as immoral, while LSI can do the same to someone they view as a heretic disturbing society."</p> <p>your problem is right here you base yourself on 16types or http://www.sociotype.com/socionics/ 's description of character instead of using description made by socionist like talanov</p> <p> </p> <p>i never say that black sensing was stronger in LSE or EIE but that ESI's Fi is like a drag for their black sensing's brutality.</p>
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Resonare INTJ 1w9 sp/sx ILI-Te 2018/12/10 (Mon) 21:23:26 #4198
Fg, that's some crock of shit you've managed to pull up right there. How do you even know they've typed the participants correctly? And ESI and LSI are impeded to the same degree but by different introverted rational functions. ESI can be absolutely brutal to someone they view as immoral, while LSI can do the same to someone they view as a heretic disturbing society. LSE has demonstratic 4D Se so they're Se is stronger than ESI/LSI though they will refrain from behaving this way due to Quadra values. EIE can be aggressive for varying reasons but they are still a victim type and are seeking to be dominated to some degree by the creative Se of LSI or ESI. Even if it's dogs, this is a good example of how even through aggression, the victim mentality can still be noticed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhpPWWoKICo

Editing post #4198 by Resonare <p>Fg, that's some crock of shit you've managed to pull up right there. How do you even know they've typed the participants correctly?</p> <p> </p> <p>And ESI and LSI are impeded to the same degree but by different introverted rational functions. ESI can be absolutely brutal to someone they view as immoral, while LSI can do the same to someone they view as a heretic disturbing society.</p> <p> </p> <p>LSE has demonstratic 4D Se so they're Se is stronger than ESI/LSI though they will refrain from behaving this way due to Quadra values.</p> <p> </p> <p>EIE can be aggressive for varying reasons but they are still a victim type and are seeking to be dominated to some degree by the creative Se of LSI or ESI.</p> <p> </p> <p>Even if it's dogs, this is a good example of how even through aggression, the victim mentality can still be noticed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhpPWWoKICo</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2018/12/09 (Sun) 15:14:37 #4191
	ESI's white ethic impede their black sensing to be as brutal as SEE, LSI and SLE. they are even outcast in term of agressivity and desire of domination by EIE and LSE who does not have black sensing in their ego, 1 is very common for them 8 is very uncommon. https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=fr&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.newsocionicsmodel.narod.ru/dualy1.html&xid=17259,15700022,15700124,15700149,15700186,15700191,15700201,15700237,15700242&usg=ALkJrhjKzuCXqY7g6rsMJLxSn4-t1gxKig ESI are 2ish far more than 4 ish. the only enneagramm who fit to them in the 468 is the 6 . EIE are the most reactive type . 468 is triple reactive tritype. EIE is the type with the highest score on paranoia with LSI(historical example: Adolf Hitler) ==>6 correlation a lot of EIE are characterized by their sense of uniqueness, their dramatic side and are commonly artist (historical exemple: salvador dali, Shakespeare)==>4 correlation EIE are also 8 over 1 or 9, way too unstable for 1 and far too self affirmative for 9. Teru Mikami, you are wrong. Kawaii, you are wrong for now. Mike Ike, you are wrong Taco, you are wrong.

Editing post #4191 by fg <p>ESI's white ethic impede their black sensing to be as brutal as SEE, LSI and SLE. they are even outcast in term of agressivity and desire of domination by EIE and LSE who does not have black sensing in their ego, 1 is very common for them 8 is very uncommon. https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=fr&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.newsocionicsmodel.narod.ru/dualy1.html&xid=17259,15700022,15700124,15700149,15700186,15700191,15700201,15700237,15700242&usg=ALkJrhjKzuCXqY7g6rsMJLxSn4-t1gxKig</p> <p>ESI are 2ish far more than 4 ish.</p> <p>the only enneagramm who fit to them in the 468 is the 6 .</p> <p>EIE are the most reactive type . 468 is triple reactive tritype.</p> <p>EIE is the type with the highest score on paranoia with LSI(historical example: Adolf Hitler) ==>6 correlation</p> <p>a lot of EIE are characterized by their sense of uniqueness, their dramatic side and are commonly artist (historical exemple: salvador dali, Shakespeare)==>4 correlation</p> <p>EIE are also 8 over 1 or 9, way too unstable for 1 and far too self affirmative for 9.</p> <p>Teru Mikami, you are wrong.</p> <p>Kawaii, you are wrong for now.</p> <p>Mike Ike, you are wrong</p> <p>Taco, you are wrong.</p> <figure><a href="https://media.giphy.com/media/ceeN6U57leAhi/giphy.gif"><img alt="" src="https://media.giphy.com/media/ceeN6U57leAhi/giphy.gif" /></a></figure> <p> </p>
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date	username	vote
20/05/08 17:58	fleetingpetals1	ENFP
20/03/21 19:34	Thyssen	INTJ
20/01/12 20:36	Tch	ENFP
21/06/06 20:10	Tman	ENJ
19/05/09 16:42	fg	ENxJ
21/06/09 01:06	LadyX	ENTP
19/01/13 12:00	Kawaii	ENxJ
18/12/09 04:15	Taco110	ENTP
18/08/23 11:02	switchblades	ESTP
18/08/23 06:34	Teru Mikami	ENTP

date	username	vote
20/11/03 11:04	Flower-like	ISTP
20/12/23 16:07	Tman	INTJ
19/05/09 16:42	fg	INTJ

date	username	vote
20/11/03 11:06	Flower-like	cp6w5
20/05/09 06:07	Diobono	8w9
20/05/08 18:47	strawberry crisis	8w9
19/05/09 16:42	fg	cp6w5
19/01/17 05:47	LadyX	cp6w5
20/12/23 16:06	Tman	cp6w5
18/08/23 10:56	switchblades	6w5

date	username	vote
20/05/08 18:47	strawberry crisis	sx/sp
19/05/09 16:43	fg	sx/so
20/11/03 12:55	Tman	sx/sp
19/01/17 05:49	LadyX	sx/sp
18/12/09 04:16	Taco110	sx/sp
18/08/23 11:02	switchblades	sx/sp

date	username	vote
21/06/09 01:03	LadyX	648
19/07/23 05:36	tman	684

date	username	vote
20/11/03 11:08	Flower-like	EIE
20/04/10 20:26	BasedGOD	LSI
20/03/22 12:37	Tman	EIE
19/11/02 17:34	fg	EIE
19/11/02 16:59	Thyssen	EIE
19/02/03 07:18	Phantom	SLE
18/12/09 23:37	Teru Mikami	SEE
18/12/09 04:14	Taco110	ILI
18/12/09 15:40	switchblades	EIE

date	username	vote
20/05/08 17:58	fleetingpetals1	ELVF
19/11/02 17:56	fg	VLEF
20/07/02 17:50	Tman	VELF

	strawberry crisis enfp 7 2020/05/08 (Fri) 18:46:06 #8189
	6 and 8 but voting P? I don’t think 4 can cancel that out…

Editing post #8189 by strawberry crisis 6 and 8 but voting P? I don’t think 4 can cancel that out…
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	Thyssen ILI 2020/05/08 (Fri) 05:33:42 #8187
	The tritype that no one can seem to agree on...

Editing post #8187 by Thyssen The tritype that no one can seem to agree on...
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Teru Mikami 2019/01/13 (Sun) 13:51:00 #4593
why not

Editing post #4593 by Teru Mikami <p>why not</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2018/12/11 (Tue) 13:36:10 #4201
	seem that you did not look at the link i sended to you. read it.

Editing post #4201 by fg <p>seem that you did not look at the link i sended to you. read it.</p>
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	switchblades INFP delete 2018/08/23 (Thu) 10:56:52 #2969
	best tritype

Editing post #2969 by switchblades <p>best tritype</p>
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