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Jacobus


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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/12/02 (Wed) 21:22:23

#8594

phsc it's funny how you think I'm "cringe" (already out of date on that one) when you come across as an obnoxious entitled child in every one of your posts. you don't like how I'll occasionally post a mean comment but nearly every post you've made on this site is just you playing rule keeper/hall monitor and badgering other people over typings or posts that you don't like. who on this site likes you, rather than tolerates you? fg?

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/12/02 (Wed) 15:17:56

#8592


But you are missing the point of Socionics, you may be the most academically minded, which is most suited to LII, but aren't there fifteen other types? Just because you don't understand the 'ultra specific' or more dramatic/mythical descriptions that are not suited to you (which is perfectly fine), it may not necessarily mean that more incorrect people wont misunderstand them correctly. But I do sympathise, an example of descriptions gone awry is the strannik website, the one for ELFV is just an essay about masochism.
Expressing one's thoughts on the internet does definitely differ from 'real life', because first, there is no possibility of hand gestures, of any gestures, of tone, of action, of eye contact, of context, of handwriting, of the possibility to debate the very thing that you are debating through (the internet), people's writing is also naturally deprived of these things because the emotional potency of language has been lessened due to the option of using an emoji, and on the forums 'debates' are drawn out for desert-long days, miscommunication and Discord prevail, you are forced to order your thoughts in organized ways rather than allow them to be spontaneous, you do not share the surroundings of the other - who is the other? and people's relationship to the screen and experience of the screen as one source (at any time or of all time) are different.
That post about 'expression' was just that I was trying to perform that 'expression' can be more complicated and diverse than just writing out 'silly' posts on the internet. The content of it doesn't really have any meaning. "Or that is has nothing to do with expression and is set aside and so as a rule no expression will follow from it?" This means that somebody properly fills out a form.
And how would you know that Jacobus doesn't behave according the the rules of good form in society when on the internet there are barely any rules of good form? Or, as I said above, there is no context, I am sure that you live in Brazil and I am sure that Jacob, probably from the US, doesn't, the 'societies' are different (even though America is the World). To be detached is not a bad thing when it is right to be detached. Why would he open himself up to eternal strangers?

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/11/27 (Fri) 20:40:21

#8589

You're mad, lol. And it's not that deep.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/11/27 (Fri) 15:26:04

#8586

you're fine, Flower. You can post here however much you want.

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/11/27 (Fri) 12:55:02

#8585

Assuming the EIE-Fe subtype, there is also this: "The ethical subtype tries to behave according to the rules of good form in society. Are internally emotional, but usually modest and constrained in their emotional expression. Sensitive and vulnerable, alone in a shower may often experience dramatic emotions, but in front of strangers they restrain themselves. Find it difficult to relax due to internal strains, wounds, and overarching ambitions; while internally suffering from a set of complexes, externally they appear proud and aloof. Usually cautious and prone to think actions through beforehand; nervous with themselves but patient and persistent they are able to achieve their goals. Exacting in enforcing that their associates observe ethical standards of behavior and prone to rashly provide remarks and advice when they see people conflict with these ethical standards. Mood varies: cold, haughty, obstinate and exacting, then soft, sincere, affable and seemingly defenseless. Movements are smooth, sometimes demonstrative, when they want they can dress effectively, yet modestly for the occasion."

But I will leave this now, I don't want to blemish Jacobus's page anymore, and I hope that I haven't.

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/11/27 (Fri) 09:51:43

#8584

But I have not shown that I have any Ni on this website and yet I'm still typed unanimously as IEI. My intuitions do not belong not on this website not only because the internet itself is subject to my intuition (and this is the internet) but also because typology as a subject may do also (but I am not using this to demonstrate that I am an IEI, I am pretending to be one for the purpose of this comment). Just because Jacobus doesn't show Fe on this website doesn't mean that he doesn't primarily use it, just that he saves it for other things, for how could Fe be expressed on this website as opposed to dominant Ti which always has room to be expressed? Perhaps the expression is prior to being here, that presence on this website is itself an expression and that the expression does not come afterwards? The lack of expression or communication via communication is an expression of the internet's lack of communication? Or that is has nothing to do with expression and is set aside and so as a rule no expression will follow from it? Or that expression depends upon or takes into consideration the audience but there is no way to gage what the audience is? The irony is that the people more expressive on the internet may have a lesser view of what expression is.
There is also a great difference between communication and internet communication, for instance, a 2L (this is unrelated to Jacobus) may have trouble expressing his thoughts on the internet because it is closer to written communication, though not entirely, and Socrates himself did not write anything but was instead written down, his style of thinking was communicative; Socrates would suffer on the internet. This principle may apply to many other aspects of many other types and also things that have nothing to do with typology.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/11/26 (Thu) 22:36:35

#8582


You're the delusional one, man. You always make the same "arguments" that really just come down to you not liking me and not wanting to change your mind on how you view me. You're stuck, you're closed-minded. In the future, keep your shit off of this page. I'm tired of entertaining you.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/11/26 (Thu) 22:19:52

#8580


That's a long-winded way to say: "No, I choose not to believe anything you say."

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/11/26 (Thu) 21:32:22

#8578

Odd that you refuse to see me as INFJ given that you basically provided the argument for it yourself. Sure, Socionics and IDR functions are fundamentally different, but they still overlap in parts.
You sort of recognize that the primary manner through which I view the world, at least by functions, is subjective intuition. I am never inclined to perceive things by their material/objective form primarily, but to try and look inside them (not in a literal sense, of course). I place everything in a context: I have a negative view of technological advancement because it is in opposition to moral-spiritual advancement; I have a generally positive view of monarchic and authoritarian governments because it is only by the will of a Great Teacher figure that the masses may be guided towards capital-t Truth (which itself is monadic in structure). The details fade away into the whole.
You should already be able to see FeTi. In irl relations, I am empathetic and self-concealing. I concern myself with the emotional structure and atmosphere of the room; I avoid vulgarity and, if possible and desirable, I present my views in the most polite manner. When I'm sincerely angry or have contempt for someone are the exceptions, of course. There is no "reading the room" in comment sections on typology sites, so I don't feel the need to do any of that here. On a psychological level, I do not see my beliefs as being my own. Human knowledge and culture are mythical in nature (that isn't to say constructed), pointing to an ideal ur-form. Which parts of the overall mythic spirit the individual accepts or rejects is mostly due to their innate or self-created personal traits, but one's own beliefs still are not truly unique.
Also:
1. I actually like tman, though I admit I rarely show it.
2. Yes, I am always right.

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/11/26 (Thu) 13:45:58

#8576

Yes, but my reasoning will always be torn when it comes to these scholarly things.

"Auditor as if constantly monitors revisee, drawing attention to his weak spot. The impression is that the auditor constantly wants to figure out what revisee is doing and how he is doing it. Revisee often gets the impression that he is being watched all the time alike a guinea pig. However, this does not mean that the auditor always verbally points out perceived shortcomings of revisee. Revisee internally feels that the auditor can do so at any time and, therefore, initially in his presence revisee exists in a state of tension. Auditor seems like a significant person; how he acts deserves attention. Revisee wants to earn recognition of the auditor, his praise is much appreciated.

However, the revisor always underestimates the revisee and perceives his thoughts and actions as insignificant, which incites resentment in the revisee. At first, revisee may be encouraged by this and want to prove his usefulness to the auditor, but all attempts are unsuccessful. The revisor seems smug and petty; he finds faults, tries to teach and re-educate the revisee. Revisee seems interesting and capable, but he is missing something and seems to require help and suggestions. However, all advice proves useless; revisee does not accept it, which further increases the desire of auditor to re-audit. Revisee seems stupid not because he is unable (which is how it actually is), but simply because it's as if he does not want to listen. This periodically causes frustration for the auditor. These relations may be called "guardianship" of auditor over the audited, which can be very annoying for the later. Sensing his vulnerability, revisee is inclined to make attempts to escape this control, especially around other people: he one-ups the auditor, tries to argue with him, gives him orders. However, such attempts are fruitless. Auditor, as a rule, does not take offense but continues with his re-education attempts.

Sometimes supervision couple is very tightly knit together. This is because both people can feel their social significance: the auditor as the guardian or the benefactor, without whose care and guidance the audited would be lost, and audited - as the object of care, whose value is recognized in this way. In relations of benefit, this feeling is much less expressed, because the benefactor does not make attempts to re-educate his beneficiary."

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2020/11/22 (Sun) 22:41:16

#8569

Jesus, calm down.

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/11/22 (Sun) 16:01:48

#8566


I'm not going to bother, any reasoning I give will be torn asunder, it is probably unlikely for Socionics relations to properly manifest on a website like this, and there may be other things at play, so even if what I've observed is right it's quite foolish anyway.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2020/11/22 (Sun) 15:44:11

#8565

Um, okay. Why?

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/11/22 (Sun) 14:36:01

#8563


I saw this comment coming. Be assured, I didn't once think that you typing Jacobus as EIE was for that reason, but I used that to say something that I have thought was very clear, at least on this website.

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/11/22 (Sun) 14:35:50

#8562


I saw this comment coming. Be assured, I didn't once think that you typing Jacobus as EIE was for that reason, but I used that to say something that I have thought was very clear, at least on this website.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2020/11/22 (Sun) 13:46:12

#8561

What?

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Flower-like

INFP

4

2020/11/19 (Thu) 11:08:47

#8552

Tman finally realized that Jacobus is his supervisor.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/11/11 (Wed) 17:09:32

#8540

Becoming more comfortable with 4w5 as my enneagram. A lot of my psychological traits can be chalked up to a desire for an untouchable uniqueness, and Naranjo/Chestnut description of sx 4 as using elitism as compensation for envy makes sense for me. But, I have a distaste for intimacy and I'm at my most 4ish when unhealthy which still seems a bit incongruous. The fact of the matter is that I'm not sure of the exact psychological origin for my way of thinking and behaving, so this is all something that's observed rather than intimately felt. If it changes again, whatever.

I guess I can illustrate some things clearer by saying that the two famous figures I relate to the most are Yukio Mishima and Maximilien Robespierre. They were rather different in a lot of ways, but both showed the desire to conform to a personal ideal and to remake the world around them into something more beautiful and pure.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/08/17 (Mon) 23:52:20

#8446

I mean Jacobus is literally a Latin approximation of my given name. Also I'm not a Buddhist or Gnostic.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/08/17 (Mon) 23:48:17

#8445


why the fuck are you calling me she

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2020/08/17 (Mon) 13:16:20

#8444

I don't think this is actually a 5 thing. 5s tend to have the problem of being to much in there own heads. If anything, viewing yourself as an outside observer is a 9 thing, particularity 9w1.
Jacobus fits a type 6 or 7 description much more then she does a type 5. She not only has a fierce loyalism to a particular tradition (Christian/Buddhist Gnosticism), but she also overwhelmingly opposes anything she views as in opposition to that tradition (Check out her comments on Paganism and Transhumanism.) Of course, to an extent, this to be expected. Everybody has ideas they don't like, and many people have a religious tradition. But Jacobus tends to take it farther then I think most people would, in a very 6ish manner. As for type 7, Jacobus tends to have a lot of goals, I think she wanted to be a writer, a philosopher, a director, an actor, ext. Then when she was asked how she wanted to accomplish these goals, she said, and I quote, "you focus to much on the details." Nuf said there. I'm sorry so much of this seems kinda like heavy handed criticism, Ennegram is mostly based in flaws, so that's what I've had to focus on.

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LadyX

intp

5

2020/08/17 (Mon) 00:00:07

#8443


Although the specific experience of feeling like you are watching yourself from outside your own body (rather than being an "observer" in general) is an Enneagram 4 experience normally.

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LadyX

intp

5

2020/08/16 (Sun) 23:46:11

#8442

"In a way, I'm an outside observer of my own self."
This sounds like a textbook "5".
Any reason you don't think you follow the Enneagram 5 pattern?

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/08/12 (Wed) 23:26:42

#8438


I'm aware of how it sounds 4ish to a degree, very 4ish 1s aren't impossible (and vice-versa). I should clarify that the true self/ideal self distinction is more a realization that's the result of reflection rather than a constantly present tension or the like. I've never consciously felt a sense of brokenness or inadequacy, and really I'm not sure where one side ends and the other begins.
Also, I've never really had a stressful life. My mother could have been around more and my father (and various guardian figures) could have been less critical of me when I was a kid, but so far I've had a rather boring life and I'm unhappy about that. Part of the problem is that I've always felt the need to dream about living other lives to escape to escape mundane reality. To make my dreams into reality, no matter what, is essentially my life-long goal.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2020/08/12 (Wed) 19:01:31

#8436


The way you describe this sounds kind of 4ish. You describe yourself as feeling unable to live up to a standard which relates to the fours sense of brokeness, and especially the fact you feel the need to hide your "true self." However, it's important to keep in mind the the 4 is the 1s designation/stress point, and so it could just be due to long term problems in your life. Also, the fact that living up to an ideal is more important than finding your "true self" is very much more a 1 thing rather than a 4 thing. All of this fits with what I've observed of you, although I think you do have more of the fours desire to be special then you claim in this post.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/08/12 (Wed) 17:54:01

#8435

The reason I type myself as 1w9 (and EIE) right now is because I've always had a sort of Galahad complex where I need to fit a personal ideal of perfection and purity. It's not to the extent that I have some sort of moral OCPD, but it is partly why I've found it difficult to establish close relationships with others and why I'm basically celibate. Another symptom is the feeling that my "true self" (a rather vague thing anyway) doesn't matter as much as being this ideal, so I must mask my perceived weaknesses whenever necessary. In a way, I'm an outside observer of my own self.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/03/30 (Mon) 16:54:26

#7830

ABBORLOEIGOEHRPERUH KEK KEK AHHHHHHHHHHH SHHHEEEEEEEIIIIIIITTTTTT

DARKNESS

IMPRISONING ME

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2020/03/30 (Mon) 16:53:36

#7829

I've never liked the idea of living in one place and working one job for the rest of my life. Too much stability becomes monotony, which is dangerous. I'd rather be a whaler, or a Foreign Legionnaire, or a missionary; anything in which I am free to cut all ties to the past. There's something heroic about exile, drifting from place to place without hope or desire to create any lasting connections. Greatness is a measure of how much a person is willing to sacrifice.

Alexander was as much aware as anyone that his insatiable quest for an abstract glory would doom both him and his empire. Like Achilles, he fought on, knowing that future generations would love him for his madness.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/11/26 (Tue) 19:33:26

#7470



 

H: 3.44

E: 3.00

X: 3.13

A: 2.13

C: 2.88

O: 4.63

Some of the results are obviously a bit exaggerated, since it's a short test.

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Thyssen

ILI

2019/11/26 (Tue) 14:06:52

#7469

Once I see a comment by you, it reminds me of your entry. So I go back to it and see if I have changed my mind.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/11/26 (Tue) 13:56:43

#7468

Thyssen, why do you change your vote for me everytime I argue with phsc.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/11/10 (Sun) 12:33:20

#7382

Alright, I'm back. That was stupid.

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/10/23 (Wed) 22:46:58

#7297

Jacobus - Looks like you win - more letters devoted to you today than any other topic - JACKPOT!

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/10/23 (Wed) 18:25:37

#7294

I'll also reiterate myself by saying that I only use this site to pass spare time, and that you (and fg, now) are reading things into my posts. I have always been, and will continue to be, perplexed at how I have been misinterpreted and made to seem what I am not. I can be dramatic, yes. I have always been the type to be quick to anger or to fall into a sudden change of emotion. This is not one of those times, however. This whole thing is just too insignificant for me to put much effort into it, despite my urge to defend myself from these insults in some manner. I have never intentionally been dishonest or acted as something that I am not. My self-typings remain mostly firm, though it is not impossible that I may change in my view of myself in the future.

If the both of you feel the need to become combatitive over an imagined system of personality, very well. This will not help to deflect the image you have created for me, but I find that the feeling of you two on my back would be a tad too much of a nuisance for me. I sincerely apologize if I harmed any of you in some manner. It's not improbable that I will return, even return soon, but for now, adieu.

 

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/10/23 (Wed) 16:34:58

#7292

stop the act. this pseudo-sympathetic bullshit with an insidious attack on your opponents judgmental ability rather than making an argument is a proof of a lack of intellectual honesty. the 'i don't take it seriously" does not make sense with your attitude of drama queen. The sincerity of "take a joke" is unprobable if we use induction, you never was a kind of troll (like teru used to be), or never close enough of phsc for doing an amical joke with him, the most probable reason behind it is a tentative of trade of compleasant typing . that attitude is disgusting, rather than opposite with strengh or diplomacy, you try a cunning method of pathologisation of your opponents and hidden corruption masked by a fake sympathy. Pathetic.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/10/23 (Wed) 16:00:33

#7290

Phsc, I don't think you're mad, but you don't understand me. That's fine, because being misunderstood is not necessarily a bad thing, although it does defeat the purpose of this page a bit.

I'm not sure as to how you extrapolated this supposed information about me from my posts. You have mentioned before, I believe, that you are lacking somewhat in social and emotional awareness. If you still see this quality in yourself, then I believe that is the reason that you read certain personality traits into my posts where there are none. Quite frankly, you seem to take this site and this community much more seriously than I do. I simply don't feel the need to explain myself exactly, or to be perfectly clear, or to bother myself with the affairs of online strangers. My posts (on here, on discord, wherever) can be ironic, and personality is something too amorphic for me to waste time attempting to find an air-tight reasoning for everything. Every typing on here is primarily impressionistic, for long-dead historical figures that's even more so.  There's never a need to become angry or argumentative over personality types.

And I know that you aren't ISTP. Take a joke.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/10/16 (Wed) 12:45:48

#7250

I already have, it's what I've based my self-typing on. Am I being too vague? Will isn't my weak spot (Third Function), Logic is.

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strawberry crisis

enfp

7

2019/10/16 (Wed) 10:53:06

#7249

Please read Syntax of Love.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/10/16 (Wed) 03:19:25

#7246

I don't believe I'm ELVF. I have no nervousness or insecurity. I value the emotions highly, particularly compassion and empathy, but I do not believe they should be given free rein, which can lead to cowardliness or effeminacy.

It's difficult to explain why I believe I have 1st Will without sounding arrogant. Frankly, I have always felt that I deserve fame and prestige, so I am constantly seeking to ensure that I deserve fame and prestige.

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Teru Mikami

2019/06/02 (Sun) 20:14:49

#6279

we all mutually agreed actually, dio is after ur ass he thinks u have good taste

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/05/30 (Thu) 17:07:38

#6198

EII? If there's one thing I'm sure of regarding socionics, it's that I value Fe>Fi and Se>Si

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/03/02 (Sat) 16:42:28

#5505

INFJ: (-8, 10, 6, 0)

INFP: (-7, 10, 6, 1)

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/03/02 (Sat) 14:59:03

#5496

I took the RHETI+MBTI test and the Real/Fake MBTI test on here

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/02/26 (Tue) 23:58:20

#5460

took some tests on this site, test 1:

rheti enneagram type: 4w5

tritype: 451

Most likely m-b (raw): INTJ

Most likely m-b (comparative): INTP

test 2:

most likely real m-b type: INFJ

most likely fake m-b type: INFP

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/02/20 (Wed) 14:31:20

#5353

You're too preoccupied with steps and details.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/02/20 (Wed) 12:57:19

#5351

I'm... 19. I've always been the type to constantly think about what I want to do and what I want to become, and I've always wanted fame and prestige. I'm serious about all the things I wrote in that post and I currently do plan to make them happen one way or another.

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2019/02/08 (Fri) 01:22:50

#5200

relatable - make the most of time - you may reconsider the plan as you get older

possibly worth a listen:

https://personalityhacker.com/podcast-episode-0264-the-make-your-mark-myth/

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Jacobus

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2019/02/07 (Thu) 21:11:22

#5197

Hi, I'm Jacobus. I don't work; I have a mother complex; I have some mood disorder that I can't quite pin down but wouldn't get treated anyway; I want to be a writer, actor, director, musician, philosopher, political theorist, and painter all at once; I've been trying to give myself visions; and I want to die before 30, or at least 40, depending on how much I get accomplished.

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Jacobus

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2019/02/07 (Thu) 21:03:38

#5196

neat

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