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Monarchism

Political philosophy

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Monarchism ~ Sakinorva Databank

Monarchism


Political philosophy

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ESTJ 2
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1w9 2
3w4 2
8w9 1
so/sp 4
LSI 5
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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/03/25 (Mon) 04:50:12

#5691

the distinction exist in france between monarchy and dictatorship. but i find the term dictatorship too negativly connoted today and vague (i prefer use the term authoritariannism who is more neutral )  while royalism is often idealized because of our medival imaginary . in anglosphere elective monarchy is a used term. so even if there is correlation between royalism and monarchy it's not the same thing. i have read some of Joseph de Maistre (EIE), Jacques Bainville ( beta) and Charles Maurras(LSI) about royalism.  and yes it is really Ni ish (i already writed it). i prefered to talk about autocracy in general because some example are borderline in term of royalism (it's hard to say if Bonapartism is a monarchy for example, he kept a lot of republican value against the value of the royalty while he share with royalism the ruling of one + the lineage.). a monarch is not automatically a king it can be an emperor or a choosen person like in Holy Roman Empire.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/03/24 (Sun) 19:46:43

#5682

In the Anglophone, a clear distinction is made between monarchy and dictatorship, and for us monarchism is synonymous with royalism. Autocracy is a broad term that can apply equally to monarchy and dictatorship. I'm the one who made the entry and this how I meant it.

If you are to read the works of monarchist political theorists (Maistre, Leontiev, among others), Ni (especially Socionics Ni, somewhat less so Jungian Ni) is vital to them. Stability over long periods of time, subservience to something transcendent (God, the Church, the nation), etc. It's not so much preserving something for them as dedicating the nation to this transcendent ideal and in union with its distant past.

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/02/27 (Wed) 17:26:54

#5483

monarchy =/= royalism

monarchy is the ruling of the one. (idem for autocracy)

royalty is different and is based on linage.

there is elective monarchy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy

some institutions like the french 5th republic is often called as presidential monarchy.

 

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tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp

ILI

2019/02/27 (Wed) 16:53:42

#5482

"Hey, I have an idea, mabye the system of goveremnt that's based entirly on linage is a Ni User!" 

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/02/27 (Wed) 05:53:23

#5468

Beta (EIE, LSI or SLE) are the most likely to be autocrat (IEI are least likely to be autocrat due tot their IxxP temperament  but are often supporter of it). when it's not them the only representent of autocracy would be SEE, but it's rarer. SLE represent a more imperialist and militarist style of autocracy, more focused about the expansion of the territory (Napoleon Bonaparte, Peter the Great and William the Conqueror ), LSI have a less confrontational style of autocracy but far more opressive and focused about discipline and obeidence (Nicolas I and II of Russia, Paul I of Russia and Stalin). EIE are imperialist like SLE but have an idealized vision of the empire/kingdom/ nation ( Hitler and Napoleon III) rather than a pragmatic one like SLE or a structural view of it like LSI.

i vote LSI over EIE and SLE mainly because of the chosen image.

in CF xNTJ work the best because monarchy is about long term vision and authoritarianism. STJ can work too but at a less important level on my opinion.

in enneagramm 1, 8 and 6 are the best candidate for supporting it.the  three most authoritarian type.

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dateusernamevote
19/07/29 23:00Thyssen ETJ
21/06/19 11:00Tman ESTJ
19/02/27 13:42fg ENTJ
19/02/27 13:03Teru Mikami STJ
19/02/27 00:51LadyX ENTJ
19/02/26 17:33Jacobus INTJ
dateusernamevote
20/05/06 21:13fleetingpetals1 ENTJ
19/10/30 13:21Thyssen ENTJ
19/08/18 08:39Tman ESTJ
19/02/27 13:41fg ENTJ
dateusernamevote
19/10/30 13:21Thyssen 1w2
19/05/19 15:54fg 1w9
19/02/27 16:49tman 3w4
19/02/27 00:52LadyX 3w4
19/02/26 17:33Jacobus 1w9
dateusernamevote
19/10/30 13:21Thyssen so/sp
19/02/27 16:50tman so/sp
19/02/26 17:33Jacobus so/sp
dateusernamevote
19/10/30 13:21Thyssen 163
19/10/05 14:48Tman 361
19/02/27 17:28Taco110 863
19/02/27 00:53LadyX 368
dateusernamevote
19/10/30 13:21Thyssen LSI
19/02/27 16:51tman LSI
19/02/27 13:02Teru Mikami LSI
19/02/27 05:27fg LSI
dateusernamevote
20/05/06 21:13fleetingpetals1 VFEL
19/10/30 20:00Tman VFEL