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Zuko ~ Sakinorva Databank

Zuko

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ISTJ 7

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	bostonma Intj 2021/11/20 (Sat) 20:38:19 #8831
	I guess the argument for Si is that Zuko did remember how to use Iroh's redirect lightning technique.But that underestimates ISFP's capabity. As of goals in mind, well the difference between Si goal and Se goal. Lets look at Aang and Katara and Sokka, they often resort to other people and resources, such as the library from the desert, the Earth Kingdom generals, Water Tribe soldiers, even King Bumi, Suki, for Aang only the guru, even Jet. Clearly the Si goal of theres is simple, help Aang master 4 elements and if possible, take back lands captured by Fire Nation, and defeat Ozai. Zuko's goal is basically make his father proud, and he's willing to change the supposed Si goal of capturing the Avatar. Zuko seemed stubborn on the idea, which confuse the INFP voters I think. But plot twist, he trusted Azula even though she was deception, and got lucky when he hired the Combustion Man, and really got lucky. Zuko, has Iroh and June, but generally speaking he is in charge, rarely ask for advice other than, I suppose survival and he didn't even ask Iroh to teach him to redirect lightning, Iroh volunteered to teach him that. I agree Zuko's Ni is hard to pinpoint, but he has Se and no Se is not enjoying things like tea or when Iroh drew the 4 elements symbol to make a point. But Se/Ni is very different from like being a organized student at a school, its like you see things differently from say SJ, you see things beyond conventional way of thought. But whats confusing about Zuko? Well it makes me think about my approach to computer programming, (intro course) I just wing it, even if the code looks extremely messy, until it works. But no, when coding in real life, its supposed to be Ne/Si, its supposed to be clean, logical, and easy to read. My code is nothing like that. In fact, Zuko also "wings it" in firebending as well, especially his technique seem quite impulsive. In contrast, Aang never wings it, maybe one exception is right before he was shot by lightning in Ba Sing Se Catacombs, but it made sense why, he didn't fully finish the lesson with the guru, and took advantage of another Se user, Zhao, who also has problem with self control. We see almost every fight Zuko is in, he often would mess up in some really serious way or resort to some really weird tactic. Now, who is a firebender who is a clear Si user? Ozai, in the final fight his battle technique is quite organized and calm, steady, but a pointed rock being there at the right place, was "1/1000" chance of happening. Now INFP voters, how is Zuko anything like Ozai? Ozai had a goal, become fire lord, and somehow he acocmplished that by asking others for help (his "wife"). Ozai, like most of Team avatar, relies on other people for their perspective, as a commanderin chief of the Firenation, he asks his war generals, Azula, even Zuko, for their take, and a very polite tone too. In fact, Ozai is the poster child character for "normal way of" goal setting in the show.

Editing post #8831 by bostonma I guess the argument for Si is that Zuko did remember how to use Iroh's redirect lightning technique.But that underestimates ISFP's capabity. As of goals in mind, well the difference between Si goal and Se goal. Lets look at Aang and Katara and Sokka, they often resort to other people and resources, such as the library from the desert, the Earth Kingdom generals, Water Tribe soldiers, even King Bumi, Suki, for Aang only the guru, even Jet. Clearly the Si goal of theres is simple, help Aang master 4 elements and if possible, take back lands captured by Fire Nation, and defeat Ozai. Zuko's goal is basically make his father proud, and he's willing to change the supposed Si goal of capturing the Avatar. Zuko seemed stubborn on the idea, which confuse the INFP voters I think. But plot twist, he trusted Azula even though she was deception, and got lucky when he hired the Combustion Man, and really got lucky. Zuko, has Iroh and June, but generally speaking he is in charge, rarely ask for advice other than, I suppose survival and he didn't even ask Iroh to teach him to redirect lightning, Iroh volunteered to teach him that. I agree Zuko's Ni is hard to pinpoint, but he has Se and no Se is not enjoying things like tea or when Iroh drew the 4 elements symbol to make a point. But Se/Ni is very different from like being a organized student at a school, its like you see things differently from say SJ, you see things beyond conventional way of thought. But whats confusing about Zuko?<br><br><br>Well it makes me think about my approach to computer programming, (intro course) I just wing it, even if the code looks extremely messy, until it works. But no, when coding in real life, its supposed to be Ne/Si, its supposed to be clean, logical, and easy to read. My code is nothing like that.<br><br><br>In fact, Zuko also "wings it" in firebending as well, especially his technique seem quite impulsive. In contrast, Aang never wings it, maybe one exception is right before he was shot by lightning in Ba Sing Se Catacombs, but it made sense why, he didn't fully finish the lesson with the guru, and took advantage of another Se user, Zhao, who also has problem with self control. We see almost every fight Zuko is in, he often would mess up in some really serious way or resort to some really weird tactic.<br><br><br>Now, who is a firebender who is a clear Si user? Ozai, in the final fight his battle technique is quite organized and calm, steady, but a pointed rock being there at the right place, was "1/1000" chance of happening. Now INFP voters, how is Zuko anything like Ozai? Ozai had a goal, become fire lord, and somehow he acocmplished that by asking others for help (his "wife"). Ozai, like most of Team avatar, relies on other people for their perspective, as a commanderin chief of the Firenation, he asks his war generals, Azula, even Zuko, for their take, and a very polite tone too. In fact, Ozai is the poster child character for "normal way of" goal setting in the show.
Replying to post #8831 by bostonma

date	username	vote
23/09/13 06:12	Erasure	ISFJ
22/09/09 10:23	rock and roll	ISFP
22/09/09 10:22	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISFP
22/02/23 18:32	bostonma	ISFP
20/05/02 13:36	TheMemphis	ISTJ
19/01/06 03:26	zethmal	ISFP
22/02/22 18:01	Tman	IFJ
18/11/08 12:59	twinpinks	INFP
18/07/10 09:41	fg	ISTJ

date	username	vote
23/09/13 06:12	Erasure	ISFP
22/09/09 10:23	rock and roll	ISFP
22/09/09 10:22	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISFP
21/05/11 13:52	12345tp12345	ISFP
19/09/22 13:41	Phantom	ISTJ
19/08/01 19:19	Lol	ISTJ
19/06/28 23:59	tman	ISTJ
19/01/06 18:23	kawaii	ISTJ
19/01/06 03:28	zethmal	ISFP
18/06/28 11:54	Resonare	ISTJ
18/06/28 03:04	fg	ISTJ

date	username	vote
23/09/13 06:12	Erasure	4w3
22/09/09 10:23	rock and roll	6w5
22/09/09 10:22	GIJOEBusta Cap	6w5
21/05/11 13:52	12345tp12345	1w2
20/05/02 13:36	TheMemphis	1w9
19/08/01 19:19	Lol	1w9
19/01/06 03:27	zethmal	4w3
22/02/22 17:57	Tman	6w5
18/06/28 11:54	Resonare	1w9
18/05/15 11:36	fg	1w9

date	username	vote
23/09/13 06:12	Erasure	sp/sx
22/09/09 10:23	rock and roll	sp/sx
22/09/09 10:22	GIJOEBusta Cap	sp/sx
20/05/02 13:36	TheMemphis	sp/sx
22/02/22 18:02	Tman	sx/sp
19/01/06 03:27	zethmal	sx/sp
18/05/15 11:37	fg	sp/sx

date	username	vote
22/02/22 18:00	Tman	648
19/01/06 03:27	zethmal	486

date	username	vote
23/09/13 06:12	Erasure	ESI
22/09/09 10:23	rock and roll	LSI
22/09/09 10:22	GIJOEBusta Cap	LSI
22/03/06 18:03	Woll Smoth	LSI
19/12/05 15:48	Tman	LSI
19/09/22 13:41	Phantom	LSI
19/05/19 15:49	Lol	LSI
18/06/28 03:04	fg	LSI
18/06/28 11:55	Resonare	LSI

date	username	vote
23/09/13 06:12	Erasure	EVFL
19/12/05 15:49	Tman	VFEL