Ernesto "Che" Guevara ~ Sakinorva Databank

Ernesto "Che" Guevara

Politics

Government, Politics, and Law

function

ennea

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socio

psyche

ENFP 4

ENFJ 1

ENTJ 1

7w8 3

6w7 1

8w9 1

8w7 1

sx/so 2

so/sp 1

SLE 4

LSI 1

ILE 1

VELF 1

VLFE 1

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	LVNA 2018/12/29 (Sat) 16:00:51 #4460
	Woah...he is very obviously not LSI...I'm unsure how anyone could think "ENFP LSI" makes any sense. Ti ego is intelligible because of his doctrinairan spirit, but it certainly was not his dominant function. Ep temperament should be fairly obvious...he was continually on the move, sought new experiences, and decided to continue exploring and fighting for a world revolution even though he was offered the chance to help set up Cuba's communist configuration. His Ep spirit can also be seen in his decision to up and leave medical school and simply travel America, being something like the Don Quixote to his own Sancho Panza. I remember reading some quote of his where he said he went on that trip not looking for anything and simply wanting to avoid any fixed form of work. Also I think it's notable that his ideological opinions conformed with his own desires to continue travelling and meet people. He justified murdering people of "low consciousness (really a backwards consciousness in his view)" but didn't admit this was his reason for killing, and instead indicated he simply loved it for the sport (I think this would work the other way if you were dealing with an LSI). But I also think he was ultimately motivated by ideas, and, much like his friends Marx and Castro, was certainly a Jung Ne type. Some good quotes: "I could become very rich in Guatemala but by the low method of ratifying my title, opening a clinic, and specialising in allergies. To do that would be the most horrible betrayal of the two 'I's' struggling inside me: the socialist and the traveller." "In the field of ideas not involving productive activities it is easier to distinguish the division between material and spiritual necessity. For a long time man has been trying to free himself from alienation through culture and art. While he dies every day during the eight or more hours that he sells his labour, he comes to life afterwards in his spiritual activities." "A school of artistic experimentation is invented, which is said to be the definition of freedom; but this “experimentation” has its limits, imperceptible until there is a clash, that is, until the real problems of individual alienation arise. Meaningless anguish or vulgar amusement thus become convenient safety valves for human anxiety. The idea of using art as a weapon of protest is combated. Those who play by the rules of the game are showered with honors — such honors as a monkey might get for performing pirouettes. The condition is that one does not try to escape from the invisible cage."

Editing post #4460 by LVNA <p>Woah...he is very obviously <em>not</em> LSI...I'm unsure how anyone could think "ENFP LSI" makes any sense. Ti ego is intelligible because of his doctrinairan spirit, but it certainly was not his dominant function. Ep temperament should be fairly obvious...he was continually on the move, sought new experiences, and decided to continue exploring and fighting for a world revolution even though he was offered the chance to help set up Cuba's communist configuration. His Ep spirit can also be seen in his decision to up and leave medical school and simply travel America, being something like the Don Quixote to his own Sancho Panza. I remember reading some quote of his where he said he went on that trip not looking for anything and simply wanting to avoid any fixed form of work. Also I think it's notable that his ideological opinions conformed with his own desires to continue travelling and meet people. He justified murdering people of "low consciousness (really a backwards consciousness in his view)" but didn't admit this was his reason for killing, and instead indicated he simply loved it for the sport (I think this would work the other way if you were dealing with an LSI). But I also think he was ultimately motivated by ideas, and, much like his friends Marx and Castro, was certainly a Jung Ne type. </p> <p>Some good quotes: <br /> <br /> "I could become very rich in Guatemala but by the low method of ratifying my title, opening a clinic, and specialising in allergies. To do that would be the most horrible betrayal of the two 'I's' struggling inside me: the socialist and the traveller."</p> <p>"In the field of ideas not involving productive activities it is easier to distinguish the division between material and spiritual necessity. For a long time man has been trying to free himself from alienation through culture and art. While he dies every day during the eight or more hours that he sells his labour, he comes to life afterwards in his spiritual activities."</p> <p>"<strong>A school of artistic experimentation is invented, which is said to be the definition of freedom; but this “experimentation” has its limits, imperceptible until there is a clash, that is, until the real problems of individual alienation arise.</strong> Meaningless anguish or vulgar amusement thus become convenient safety valves for human anxiety. The idea of using art as a weapon of protest is combated. Those who play by the rules of the game are showered with honors — such honors as a monkey might get for performing pirouettes. The condition is that one does not try to escape from the invisible cage."</p> <p> </p>
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date	username	vote
22/03/26 01:20	Woll Smoth	ENFP
18/12/29 01:46	LadyX	ENFP
18/12/25 02:18	Jacobus	ENFP
18/12/06 18:32	tch	ENFP
18/12/06 18:35	twinpinks	ENFP
18/09/14 18:45	switchblades	ENFP

date	username	vote
25/07/20 11:16	nicotineseries	ENFP
22/03/08 17:21	Woll Smoth	ENFP
21/08/18 17:50	Tman	ENTJ
19/02/06 11:55	tch	ENFP
18/12/30 00:36	fg	ENFP
18/09/14 18:46	switchblades	ENFJ

date	username	vote
22/04/19 23:36	Woll Smoth	8w7
21/08/18 17:50	Tman	8w9
18/12/29 01:47	LadyX	7w8
20/01/18 23:16	Jacobus	7w8
19/01/31 10:31	LVNA	7w8
18/09/14 18:45	switchblades	6w7

date	username	vote
21/08/18 17:52	Tman	so/sp
18/12/25 02:19	Jacobus	sx/so
18/09/14 18:48	switchblades	sx/so

date	username	vote
20/01/18 23:17	Jacobus	714
18/12/29 01:48	LadyX	714
18/09/14 18:48	switchblades	682

date	username	vote
25/07/20 11:16	nicotineseries	SLE
22/04/19 23:35	Woll Smoth	SLE
21/08/18 17:52	Tman	SLE
20/01/18 23:16	Jacobus	SLE
18/09/14 19:44	LVNA	ILE
18/09/14 18:46	switchblades	LSI

date	username	vote
21/08/18 17:52	Tman	VLFE
19/11/19 01:28	Jacobus	VELF

	Jacobus INFJ 4w5 EIE 2020/06/05 (Fri) 22:42:48 #8255
	Say what one will about the merits of communism or the morality of his actions, but whoever can claim to not want to be a quixotic international revolutionary like Che is either a liar or a very boring person.

Editing post #8255 by Jacobus Say what one will about the merits of communism or the morality of his actions, but whoever can claim to not want to be a quixotic international revolutionary like Che is either a liar or a very boring person.
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thormns ENFP 7w8 748 sx/so EIE-Ni 2019/03/24 (Sun) 11:15:34 #5679
Chad

Editing post #5679 by thormns <p>Chad</p>
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