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Makoto Niijima / Queen ~ Sakinorva Databank

Makoto Niijima / Queen

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Prophet X Y Z 2019/03/26 (Tue) 05:18:37 #5710
@suzeeda She isn’t necessarily 2 just because she says she fears worthlessness, and 1s fear isn’t being incorrect (just wtf are you smoking?) While self worth is an image triad issue, the basic fear for twos is being unwanted. The two influence is coming from the wing, hence 1w2. Her overall pattern reveals a strong degree of influence from the superego (guilt, responsibilities, “shoulds”), which points to types 1-2-6, but she is not an image type. There’s no entitlement, self importance, giving to get feistiness evident in low to average health 2s. She is largely compliant to an ideal (inner critic), and criticism directed towards her is typical of 1s (too prim and proper, too goody goody, too by the books). Compare and contrast the two character styles: >Both types are serious, and conscience-driven, both like to feel that they are of service, and both can be very altruistic; however, their styles and motivations differ significantly. Ones try to transcend the personal in their dealings, appealing to principles and the evident "rightness" of their positions or suggestions. Twos are highly personal and see their service in personal terms. Ones defend their autonomy–they do not want people to interfere with them. Twos seek close connection and even merging. Ones are restrained in the expression of their positive feelings although they let people know when they are dissatisfied or irritated. Twos may have difficulty with hostile or angry feelings, but they are fairly unrestrained in expressing their positive feelings. In lower average, to average health, there is an ego behind 2s, a self importance, giving to get, feisty, entitled personality. It’s an image type after all. Criticism of Makoto has nothing or little to do with any of this. She is accused of being a goody goody prim and proper girl who plays too much by the rules and procedures (compliance to an ideal).

Editing post #5710 by Prophet @suzeeda <p> </p> <p>She isn’t necessarily 2 just because she says she fears worthlessness, and 1s fear isn’t being incorrect (just wtf are you smoking?) While self worth is an image triad issue, the basic fear for twos is being unwanted. The two influence is coming from the wing, hence 1w2. Her overall pattern reveals a strong degree of influence from the superego (guilt, responsibilities, “shoulds”), which points to types 1-2-6, but she is not an image type. There’s no entitlement, self importance, giving to get feistiness evident in low to average health 2s. She is largely compliant to an ideal (inner critic), and criticism directed towards her is typical of 1s (too prim and proper, too goody goody, too by the books). </p> <p> </p> <p>Compare and contrast the two character styles:</p> <p>>Both types are serious, and conscience-driven, both like to feel that they are of service, and both can be very altruistic; however, their styles and motivations differ significantly. Ones try to transcend the personal in their dealings, appealing to principles and the evident "rightness" of their positions or suggestions. Twos are highly personal and see their service in personal terms. Ones defend their autonomy–they do not want people to interfere with them. Twos seek close connection and even merging. Ones are restrained in the expression of their positive feelings although they let people know when they are dissatisfied or irritated. Twos may have difficulty with hostile or angry feelings, but they are fairly unrestrained in expressing their positive feelings. In lower average, to average health, there is an ego behind 2s, a self importance, giving to get, feisty, entitled personality. It’s an image type after all. Criticism of Makoto has nothing or little to do with any of this. She is accused of being a goody goody prim and proper girl who plays too much by the rules and procedures (compliance to an ideal).</p> <p> </p>
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Suzeeda Idk 2019/03/05 (Tue) 16:40:30 #5522
Hate to break it to y’all, but perfectionist Makoto is a TWO. Not a ONE. What we often forget is that the Enneagram is based on a person’s CORE FEARS, not their reactions to these fears or their personality per se. See, Makoto even says in the game verbatim that she has a fear of worthlessness and her lowest point was when she was caught up on being useless. That screams 2, not 1’s fear of being incorrect

Editing post #5522 by Suzeeda Hate to break it to y’all, but perfectionist Makoto is a TWO. Not a ONE. What we often forget is that the Enneagram is based on a person’s CORE FEARS, not their reactions to these fears or their personality per se. See, Makoto even says in the game verbatim that she has a fear of worthlessness and her lowest point was when she was caught up on being useless. That screams 2, not 1’s fear of being incorrect
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date	username	vote
23/09/03 06:08	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISTJ
20/05/01 18:57	Jacobus	ISTJ
19/05/24 16:00	Charlotte56709	ISTJ
18/05/06 02:24	Stephen Hearts	INFJ

date	username	vote
23/09/03 06:08	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISTJ
20/05/01 18:57	Jacobus	ISTJ
19/07/14 22:15	Blank	ISTJ

date	username	vote
23/09/03 06:08	GIJOEBusta Cap	1w2
20/05/01 18:57	Jacobus	1w2
19/03/05 16:40	Suzeeda	2w1
18/07/05 06:07	wecanbeliketheyare	1w2
18/05/06 02:24	Stephen Hearts	1w2

date	username	vote
20/05/01 18:57	Jacobus	so/sp
18/07/05 06:07	wecanbeliketheyare	so/sp
18/05/06 02:24	Stephen Hearts	so/sp

date	username	vote
20/05/01 18:57	Jacobus	ESI