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Severus Snape

Harry Potter

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Severus Snape ~ Sakinorva Databank

Severus Snape

Harry Potter

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ISTJ 9

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6w5 8

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	Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI 2020/07/12 (Sun) 22:21:11 #8362
	In response to post #8361. To be clear, this conflation is a problem because Snape was forced into the circumstances that caused him to have such strong emotions. None of us get to chose when our loved ones die of course, but I always got the impression Snape didn't have many friends, and so having the one of the few people who cared about him die probably gave him some baggage that was not a result of inherent personality traits.

Editing post #8362 by Tman To be clear, this conflation is a problem because Snape was forced into the circumstances that caused him to have such strong emotions. None of us get to chose when our loved ones die of course, but I always got the impression Snape didn't have many friends, and so having the one of the few people who cared about him die probably gave him some baggage that was not a result of inherent personality traits.
Replying to post #8362 by Tman

	Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI 2020/07/12 (Sun) 22:12:47 #8361
	In response to post #8360. Just because he evaluates people through his personal lens, doesn't imply that's something he's comfortable with. I think Snape in part singled Harry out in part because it reminded him of a part of himself he had been trying to keep represed. Not just because the memory was so painful, but because Snape didn't really know how to deal with strong emotions in grenal. Of course, that gets into interpretation of the text, but given how many emotional walls Snape seems to erect, I think it's a fair reading. Ultimately, you're conflating "makes heavy use of" and "is comfortable with."

Editing post #8361 by Tman Just because he evaluates people through his personal lens, doesn't imply that's something he's comfortable with. I think Snape in part singled Harry out in part because it reminded him of a part of himself he had been trying to keep represed. Not just because the memory was so painful, but because Snape didn't really know how to deal with strong emotions in grenal. <br>Of course, that gets into interpretation of the text, but given how many emotional walls Snape seems to erect, I think it's a fair reading. <br>Ultimately, you're conflating "makes heavy use of" and "is comfortable with."
Replying to post #8361 by Tman

	TheMemphis 2020/07/12 (Sun) 18:51:40 #8360
	In response to post #8359. We can first pretend that this argument is actually a good one and then say that : it is the same guy who protected with his very life the same son of the woman he loved. What's stronger, his hate or his love ? But more importantly, you're litterally describing leading and being comfortable with Fi in Socionics terms. That's all he does, constantly evaluating people through his emotional lenses and keeping those evaluations deep within himself to the point they define his very existence.

Editing post #8360 by TheMemphis We can first pretend that this argument is actually a good one and then say that : it is the same guy who protected with his very life the same son of the woman he loved. What's stronger, his hate or his love ?<br><br>But more importantly, you're litterally describing leading and being comfortable with Fi in Socionics terms. That's all he does, constantly evaluating people through his emotional lenses and keeping those evaluations deep within himself to the point they define his very existence.
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	Tman INTP 5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp ILI 2020/07/12 (Sun) 18:04:17 #8359
	In response to post #8358. I could see him having Fi as a role function. But as a leading function? A persons leading function is supposed to be something there comfortable with right? But Snape? Bitter, sarcastic, petty Snape? The guy who took out his grudge on a dead man for being mean to him as a teenager by bullying and intimidating that guys twelve year old son? Not exactly the height of emotional competence.

Editing post #8359 by Tman I could see him having Fi as a role function. But as a leading function? A persons leading function is supposed to be something there comfortable with right? But Snape? Bitter, sarcastic, petty Snape? The guy who took out his grudge on a dead man for being mean to him as a teenager by bullying and intimidating that guys twelve year old son? Not exactly the height of emotional competence.
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	TheMemphis 2020/07/12 (Sun) 15:50:16 #8358
	Isn't this character like the very definition of socionics Fi ? No ? Moving from him wanting to be a part of something (enneagram 6 thing) , why did he feel comfortable all these years with the Death Eaters but suddenly decided to betray them ? Because his principles were violated or because his loved one was - contrary to what he initially thought - murdered ? What did he decide to show to Harry, as last words ? Was it not a summary of his life, with the focus being on his relationships to the major figures he met with each relationship receiving a set value of interest or disinterest from him ? From his motives and goals, to his way of life, to even little details like his Patronus being the same as Lily, everything about him is introverted ethics at its purest.

Editing post #8358 by TheMemphis Isn't this character like the very definition of socionics Fi ? No ? <br>Moving from him wanting to be a part of something (enneagram 6 thing) , why did he feel comfortable all these years with the Death Eaters but suddenly decided to betray them ? Because his principles were violated or because his loved one was - contrary to what he initially thought - murdered ?<br>What did he decide to show to Harry, as last words ? Was it not a summary of his life, with the focus being on his relationships to the major figures he met with each relationship receiving a set value of interest or disinterest from him ? <br>From his motives and goals, to his way of life, to even little details like his Patronus being the same as Lily, everything about him is introverted ethics at its purest.
Replying to post #8358 by TheMemphis

	forestgump ESTP 7w8 LSI 2018/10/08 (Mon) 08:00:21 #3590
	"These Ones are avengers; they are not afraid of confrontations. They may be containing a murderous rage that they cannot see. Their anger can be like a volcano that erupts. They perceive themselves as strong. They have great strength and determination and can be very brave. They are also impulsive and do things quickly. Sexual Ones have two sides: a more playful side oriented toward pleasure and an aggressive, angry side. Pain is the emotion they repress the most and the one they find most difficult to show. They may act out their unacknowledged pain by leading a double life as a way of breaking the rules. Some Sexual Ones display "trap-door" behavior, discharging their anger and pain through "bad" acts. "

Editing post #3590 by forestgump <p>"These Ones are avengers; they are not afraid of confrontations.<strong> They may be containing a murderous rage that they cannot see.</strong> Their anger can be like a volcano that erupts. They perceive themselves as strong. They have great strength and determination and can be very brave. They are also impulsive and do things quickly.<br /> <br /> Sexual Ones have two sides: a more playful side oriented toward pleasure and an aggressive, angry side. <strong>Pain is the emotion they repress the most and the one they find most difficult to show.</strong> They may act out their unacknowledged pain by leading a double life as a way of breaking the rules. Some Sexual Ones display "trap-door" behavior, discharging their anger and pain through "bad" acts. "</p>
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	fg xxTJ 6w5 Beta ST 2018/07/17 (Tue) 07:08:50 #2166
	ISTJ>INTJ. (CF's Si)he percieve the world by the prism of his personnal experiences instead of abstract symbol (Ni). despise harry because he look like his father. he is also far too past oriented for being an INTJ. his very detailed book about potions indicate CF's Si. he is not a 4, being in love or creative don't make you a 4. he choose to join voldemort because he desire to belonging somewhere. his huge loyalty to dumbledore also indicate 6.

Editing post #2166 by fg <p>ISTJ>INTJ. (CF's Si)he percieve the world by the prism of his personnal experiences instead of abstract symbol (Ni). despise harry because he look like his father. he is also far too past oriented for being an INTJ. his very detailed book about potions indicate CF's Si.</p> <p>he is not a 4, being in love or creative don't make you a 4. he choose to join voldemort because he desire to belonging somewhere. his huge loyalty to dumbledore also indicate 6.</p> <p> </p>
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date	username	vote
22/09/19 11:55	Woll Smoth	ISTJ
22/08/26 09:17	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISTJ
21/06/03 12:21	lovelyday	INTJ
20/07/12 15:54	Tman	INTJ
20/02/24 15:39	TheMemphis	INTJ
19/12/26 01:26	Fuzzy	INTJ
19/06/18 08:42	tanchique	INTJ
19/05/15 17:04	fg	INTJ
18/11/12 16:04	Tch	INTJ
18/05/08 01:26	Maul	INTJ
18/05/07 08:10	Taco110	INTJ
18/05/07 08:09	Stephen Hearts	INTJ

date	username	vote
22/08/26 09:17	GIJOEBusta Cap	ISTJ
22/03/29 21:46	Woll Smoth	ISTJ
20/07/12 16:41	crescendi	ISTJ
20/06/10 17:09	Flower-like	ISTJ
20/02/04 15:58	Taco110	ISTJ
19/12/26 02:25	Tman	ISTJ
19/12/26 01:26	Fuzzy	INTJ
19/05/15 17:04	tch	ISTJ
18/10/08 07:58	forestgump	INTJ
18/05/12 12:43	fg	ISTJ

date	username	vote
22/09/19 11:55	Woll Smoth	6w5
22/08/26 09:17	GIJOEBusta Cap	6w5
21/06/03 12:21	lovelyday	5w4
20/07/12 16:41	crescendi	6w5
20/02/24 15:39	TheMemphis	6w5
19/12/26 01:26	Fuzzy	6w5
18/10/08 07:57	forestgump	1w9
18/05/12 12:43	fg	6w5
18/05/08 01:26	Maul	4w5
19/02/19 18:06	Taco110	6w5
18/05/07 08:09	Stephen Hearts	4w5

date	username	vote
22/08/26 09:17	GIJOEBusta Cap	sp/sx
21/06/03 12:21	lovelyday	sp/sx
20/07/12 16:41	crescendi	sx/sp
20/02/24 18:21	Tman	sp/sx
20/02/24 15:39	TheMemphis	sp/sx
19/12/26 01:26	Fuzzy	sp/sx
19/07/08 21:51	Thyssen	sp/sx
18/10/08 07:57	forestgump	sx/sp
18/05/12 12:43	fg	sp/sx
18/05/08 01:26	Maul	sp/sx
18/05/07 08:10	Taco110	sp/sx

date	username	vote
21/06/03 12:21	lovelyday	541
20/07/12 16:41	crescendi	614
19/07/08 21:51	Thyssen	614
19/02/19 18:05	Taco110	461
18/10/08 08:00	forestgump	351

date	username	vote
22/09/19 11:55	Woll Smoth	LSI
21/06/03 12:21	lovelyday	ILI
20/02/24 18:21	Tman	LSI
20/02/24 15:39	TheMemphis	ESI
20/02/04 15:58	Taco110	LSI
19/12/26 01:26	Fuzzy	LSI
19/10/18 21:57	ethan	LSI
19/10/14 16:37	Phantom	LSI
19/05/15 17:02	fg	LSI
18/11/13 05:45	echidna1000	ILI

date	username	vote
20/02/04 15:58	Taco110	LFVE
19/12/28 17:55	Phantom	LEVF
19/12/26 02:25	Tman	LFVE
19/11/16 18:07	Thyssen	LFVE

date	username	vote
19/12/25 01:25	Thyssen	HEXACO