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2024/11/28 (Thu) 17:54:39
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2024/11/28 (Thu) 17:54:38
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:13:26
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:13:23
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:13:21
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:13:19
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:11:18
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:10:38
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:08:54
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:08:11
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 20:04:23
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:59:02
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:54:33
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:48:21
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:44:59
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:37:45
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:37:40
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:37:36
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:37:33
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:37:30
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:33:28
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:31:37
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:27:33
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:24:57
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:23:33
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:18:56
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:14:25
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:14:02
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:13:11
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:13:04
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:09:56
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:08:51
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:08:41
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:05:58
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:01:32
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 19:01:31
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:56:17
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:56:16
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:52:18
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:52:16
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:52:15
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:50:14
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:50:12
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:50:11
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:49:27
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:49:11
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:46:25
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:44:05
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:39:54
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:37:32
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:35:11
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:32:40
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:31:25
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:28:53
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:28:12
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:25:39
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:24:45
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:22:04
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:19:11
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:16:43
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:16:31
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:16:03
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:15:45
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:15:13
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:14:52
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:14:12
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:12:46
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:11:51
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:08:43
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:07:49
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:04:39
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:04:01
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 18:01:20
#9986
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 17:46:35
#9985
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 16:58:35
#9978
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 16:57:57
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 16:56:50
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 16:56:47
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 16:56:32
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 16:56:26
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2024/11/27 (Wed) 16:32:50
#9969
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EverybodyLovesNi
2021/02/17 (Wed) 09:14:06
#8647
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xxTJ
6w5
Beta ST
2020/12/05 (Sat) 05:29:34
#8604
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Dollar Shave Club One Wipe Scottys
INTP
5w4
2020/11/06 (Fri) 22:46:58
#8535
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Helvetica
ILE
2020/11/05 (Thu) 10:33:29
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2020/08/28 (Fri) 02:49:06
#8466
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Diobono
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2020/08/27 (Thu) 06:14:42
#8465
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2020/08/27 (Thu) 04:20:54
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Tman
5w4/1w9/4w5 Sx/Sp
ILI
2020/08/25 (Tue) 10:39:15
#8463
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2020/08/25 (Tue) 03:51:50
#8462
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2020/08/24 (Mon) 17:01:10
#8460
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2020/08/24 (Mon) 13:00:41
#8454
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2020/08/21 (Fri) 11:30:38
#8452
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2020/08/21 (Fri) 01:22:38
#8451
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2020/08/20 (Thu) 19:14:57
#8450
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2020/08/20 (Thu) 14:29:07
#8449
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 18:13:23
#7846
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it come from the consent of the governed but Locke never refer as it a source of validation. he refer to nature/god.
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 18:04:47
#7845
In response to post #7843.
Editing post #7845 by Tman
Also, in terms of what "rights are given" why wouldn't this also apply to the right to rule? Where, if not from the consent of the goverend, should this come from?
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 17:40:13
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The problem of attempting to ground an objective ethics without the use of God dosn't seem to become much essier in the case of virtue than in the case of rights.
The main difrenice inbtween a bodly organ and a person is that a bodly organ dosn't have slef concousneses, and therefor only has moral vaule in so far as it relates to the wellbeing of a concsouse agent. This holds true weither that vaule comes form God, potentual virture, rights, the abilty to feel happeniss, or any other thing peple try to use in order to ground morlaity.
I agree man is a social animal, I simply hold there may be times when he needs to make radical changes in the socity in which he lives, possiblly even cutting himself of from socity untill a better one can be found in extem cases. I will say that such cases are never ideal though.
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 15:30:30
#7843
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the jusnaturalist"had the right" is justly that does not make sense for me. a right is something given by an authority after a processus of deliberation . the authority who give right in Locke's philosophy is god. And god is not a very reliable material to base ourself. the "had the right" of this people to return to the state of nature is also absurd. society is a whole like an organism or a machine. you can say "oh mr brain you want your autonomy and leave this body you don't want to be a part of, that's fine, let's do it".
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 15:04:40
#7842
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Also, Locke felt the same, he mearly stated that people had the right to returen to a state of nature, not that they always should.
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 14:42:31
#7841
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I can agree with that, so long as it reamins the case that the goverment mantains there right to rule from the concent of the goverened.
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 14:05:37
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i did not remember about the family part.
"I think it's more likly that man begain in extrermly small scale triblasitic socities" yeah i agree but even with this statement, i don't think it save Locke's theory. i think we should rather focus on what men become when cities and small village rised rather than basing ourselve on this extremly small example that does not exist anymore and can't come back because of our wide population.
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 10:29:56
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Editing post #7839 by Tman
Never made the claim you did belive in it. Locke did not imagine a man as completly disconected from others. He did imagine them as in a stateless socity, but they still exist as faimlies. I think it's more likly that man begain in extrermly small scale triblasitic socities.
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 03:31:33
#7838
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i don't believe in natural law. Laws came from an institution nothing more nothing less. also, Locke's one seem the most detached of "human tendency" . men is a social animal by nature so deriving him a moral from him as an individual disconnected from other is a little bit stupid imo.
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2020/04/01 (Wed) 00:13:06
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That makes sense. I tend more towards a rights based natrual law theory (like the kind Locke advocated for) and so I tend not to see the problem with people wanting to protect there privacy, no matter how insgnficant there reasons.
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strawberry crisis
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2020/03/31 (Tue) 13:33:09
#7836
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This is coward betrayal!!!
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2020/03/31 (Tue) 06:09:04
#7834
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ethically speaken i believe in ethic of virtues (yet, in a more atheist perspective than Elisabeth Anscombe). ethic is the normative discipline of behaviors. So i would not defend the position of accepting coward as coward. cowardness is the lack of one of the virtue (courage). it would be inconsistent with my theorical position in ethical philosophy.
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2020/03/31 (Tue) 04:33:43
#7833
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Lol fg before you pull me down into this one, don’t you think we should let cowards be their cowardly selves?
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2020/03/31 (Tue) 03:58:13
#7832
Editing post #7832 by fg
A==>B does not imply B ==> A. telling that private voters are coward does not say that there is no coward among public voters. "some people feel uncomfortable voting publicly even under a website persona, and that should be perfectly okay." from where do you derivate this "should" ?
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2020/03/31 (Tue) 00:45:01
#7831
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Aside from SSS, public voting wasn’t a thing on previous typology databanks, and it was because the norm had been to keep your votes private that the leftover P-D community recommended that I implement an opt-in anonymous voting system when making this site. Anonymous voting exists as a utility to protect cowards from public scrutiny or backlash or whatever other reason they have to hide their votes—some people feel uncomfortable voting publicly even under a website persona, and that should be perfectly okay. That being said, there are a lot of troll voters whose votes I have yet to purge, and they’re all cowardly private voters. I don’t really get it, either. If you make an account called HairyBalls, you might as well troll vote proudly and publicly, right?
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intp
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2020/03/28 (Sat) 00:39:07
#7817
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I agree. I'm not sure what the value of anonymous voting is, when we have the option (that nearly everyone takes) of creating a persona that exists only on this site.
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2020/03/28 (Sat) 00:23:05
#7815
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it is not a joke . at first, Being anonymous on internet allow to hide ourslef from responsability when telling something about someone . Which i find coward. that's why my site and my youtube channel have my name on it. I am probably the only one on this site that shared his IRL identity name. When i write pr tell that i find Macron hysterical or Gulenko's cognitive style in a total inadequation with fact, everyone can know that François Garet told that. i am coherent in this regard. the, why do i don't consider the political anonymous vote as cowardness and an anonymous vote on someone's type as. A vote on someone's type is a rapport individual to individual .the inequality is only between the level of argumentation between the two individuals if there is a request for argumentation. while the anonymous political vote was about not letting the surrounding judging the individual, it's a mass-individual potential confrontation that we want to avoid in this case.
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2020/03/27 (Fri) 22:04:24
#7814
In response to post #7813.
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FG, I'm not sure weither or not your joking, so I'm sorry if I'm just not getting the joke, but isn't that a bit harsh? Why would anyomous voting on someones page be any worse then doing it any other cermstance?
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2020/03/27 (Fri) 15:30:46
#7813
Editing post #7813 by fg
anonymous vote on someone's type is cowardness
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2019/10/30 (Wed) 19:47:57
#7333
Editing post #7333 by Tman
Simply the idea of someone saying "I'm Humble!" I'm not saying I don't realy think FG lacks humility, I was just ammused by the dicsnoect of act and content, which most likly hadn't ocured to him.
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2019/10/30 (Wed) 16:18:20
#7330
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I just thought it was funny.
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Thyssen
2019/10/30 (Wed) 12:19:00
#7328
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:( Also, in this case, the opposite of 3 would be 3... as it’s the equilibrium of all the numbers that you can vote for HEXACO(1, 2, 3, 4, 5)
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2019/10/29 (Tue) 19:49:20
#7327
Editing post #7327 by Tman
I think anyone who votes them selves as "humble" on this website should have the opiste voted for them permanently as an automatic response. ;P
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2019/10/16 (Wed) 04:56:25
#7247
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number of possibilities is important in typology. because typology is , guess what a tool to type people and that we want a system where we can make the maximum of people fit in . that's as simple as that. i don't want to create a system like that because it would just be a different interpretation of socionics from a guy who don't have the authority or the academical credit that allow him to do this. Since socionics is not academically present in France i can't become a socionist. but actually i am talking about socionics and my work about it with some of my classmates, maybe i will talk about this system with my ethical-political philosophy teacher who is also involved into psychology to talk with her about this system and my work. but i only have class with her the second semester.
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2019/10/15 (Tue) 18:27:30
#7242
Editing post #7242 by fg
from what i have understood this system have the advantage of a large number of combination, but have the disadvantage of only have 4 possible position for a function. i already talked with Kawaii about my desire of a variation of the socionics system that would permit more combination (possibility of being black ethic base and Black logic vulnerable for example, or being LII and Beta etc...). but this system don't really answer to my desire either, the narowness of only 4 possible link toward a function (confident, flexible,insecure, obvlious) seem to make this system too narrow (in comparison of socionics) to have a reasonable amount of actual people fitting with this theory. but about your vote as emotion obvlious , i don't relate to it from the description of https://www.attitudinalpsyche.com (but i would prefer to argue about it in private message since i will probably have to give specific personnal example to explain more my disagreement.). My statement is about https://www.attitudinalpsyche.com's definition, but that may be the equivalent of socionics.com in psyche.
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2019/10/15 (Tue) 18:04:22
#7240
Editing post #7240 by fg
i got VLFE (i toke the test 2 time). I don't know this system very much so i can't tell.
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2019/09/29 (Sun) 04:56:49
#7172
Editing post #7172 by fg
Teru, for starting , thanks for this post, i sincerely appreciate your detailed explanation and your more serious tone than usual.
"Thing is, I think it goes against the point of the Myers-Briggs to use ability rather than preference, and type you intuitive simply because you enjoy learning about philosophy and things that aren't necessarily connected to the physical world, or put your intelligence on display. It's more important to focus on the how and why than the what, and even this is related to why I would type you S over N. When for example you type people, you don't try to find out why they do the things that they do, you apply your set of predefined characteristics on their behavior, almost like a manual, that you use to make things easier on you, to reduce possibilities, to arrive at one or a small few factual conclusions that you will always be able to prove and back up with what you can observe and what people have said about themselves. You compare them to others you have observed throughout history (who may or may not be accurately typed), use lists of traits that connect typology with philosophy or political preference, and don't want to listen when people tell you these things aren't that important, might overlap or are just straight up inaccurate. You take a system that denotes how people's minds function and that influences their behavior yet strip away all the layers of subjectivity, leaving you with only behavior which - to you - is fact, and who can disagree with objective fact? Well, sophists would. After seeing you do these same things over and over I just can't see you as N, which expands on possibilities and is experimental rather than literal and reductionist, would spend more time listening to what's actually being said than gauging whether or not the information comes from credible sources, and would see a bigger grey area between "fairy tale and fact", and not make as many black vs white statements and assumptions."
i can see what you say, yes, i rarely care about asking individual why they act like that and i can see how you can see me as a reductionnist because of my approach. i relate to this approach mostly because i don't trust people judgment about themselves because being the object as well as the subject is a tricky thing that lead towards bias. i also rather prefer using this kind of approach because there is no such thing as science of the individual, only of the general. despite using a pseudoscience i try to be the most rigorous possible . yes i am making elimination, because i do classification. i someone is a girl, this person is not a boy. a classification also impede some possibilities, yes. i did not choose this method because i like reducing possibility but rather because of a lack of trust about self-typing (that's also the reason why i tend to attack the S argument rather than defending the N argument), that's also why in this page i posted information about what different kind people think about me IRL rather than doing a long explanation why i think i am x type. And about "fairy tale and fact", contrary to what you seem to believe i don't despise fairy tale. on the contrary. the use of fiction is a good tool to find truth. just like Descartes act as if our senses always mislead us (despite knowing it is not always the case) to find an absolute truth, the socionics system is a fairy tale, people are not truly split in 16 categories, 4 quadra and 4 clubs but it is a temporary glasses that permit to have a general understanding of people.
"To use one of your historical examples, it's like the difference between Freud (S) and Jung (N), both of them being very influential but having vastly different approaches, Jung disliking Freud's approach because he saw it as overly constraining and negative, Freud disliking Jung and labeling all of his more out-of-the-box theories pseudoscience bullshit, despite both of them being psychologists and thus not really needing objective fact. Every other time you comment, I see you complaining about something the same way Freud complained about Jung, the same thing people keep pointing out yet you keep labeling insults and coming from "sophists", no matter who it comes from." this comparison to me with Freud is at the same time flattering, insulting and quite revelative of how you see me like how Jung saw Freud. No matter of Freud's type N or S. I think Jung had a biased understanding of him (despite being rather on the side of Jung, but i may have follow the old revolutionnary to became the new conservative, it is not impossible). Jung saw Freud as a person who did not see the potential of his ideas and did not see his intellectual potential (and it might be true as well as Freud for Jung and me for you). But Jung overly generalised this particular injustice and creating an image of a close-minded freud from it. I am a relatively "important" person in the typology community (not at first when you met me just like Freud was at a much bigger level, and you are an outsider in your behavior just like Jung was. so of course i like Freud seem more "inside the box" because of our social position. I don't call people sophist "no matter who it comes from" you were the only one that i remember calling sophist, ok. You probably did not mean this litterally but be more carefull with your words on the future. and yes it is again one of the reason why you seem to think i am S, but in that case even Hegel is.
"It's like there's black or white, us or them, smart or dumb, right or wrong, N or insult, authoritative sources or sophists; like you pick two opposing traits, draw a line and write one on each side of a piece of paper and filter any information as falling under either of them so you're ultimately left with a system of "either-or" labeling with nothing in-between, like your thought process basically embodies the line that's gatekeeping the information, and because you don't see anything in-between, everyone who does must be wrong and dumb and doesn't know what they're talking about, no matter the content or context of what they're saying; and I think that's mostly because you have a lot of trouble filtering between opposing ideas not just in preference but in general, it's something I see you struggle with a lot, like you don't know that there are different shades of black and white that are equally viable as the extremes and if something even leans slightly more towards one than the other, they must also encompass that entirely, even if explicitly stated that they don't, you don't and won't recognize the possibility that there can be a "grey area" or that things aren't as simple as what you've reduced them to, and even if you do it's irrelevant as it's something you never actively try to do, meaning you somewhat lean towards a sensory preference." i will finally answer to the black or white argument who is the most redundant and boring speech that people tend to make here about me, even if i see where it come from. i can judge some people as all black (like i did to you, but you just make me change my mind with this comment) but i rarely judge something as all white. I am easily annoyed by small things which lead me to be harsh in my judgment and arguments. i believe in grey: i am grey about Tman for example. i am not black or white, because i tend to always criticize the system i use despite using those systems (i criticize lot of intertype relationship stuff in socionics, reinin dichotomies etc...), and i admitted function was not perfect despite using them and make fun of my "function knight"personna.
phsc "Your articles constantly mention things I've never seen in other's articles and they also don't really make sense for theory (as far as I know about it, maybe you just know different sources), a few examples from your common characteristics between duals article: "are not confuse between right and left (good spatial intelligence)" "feminist views" "bad long-term memory" "cynicism towards psychotherapy’s efficiency" "like the sound of their own voice" "bad coordination of movement" "strong hate towards the bourgeoisie’s values but adherence towards the aristocratic values" "developed sexual imagination" "high sensitivity towards pain" "a tendency to love rock n roll" "more religious than the average of the population" "know how to play with children"" this informations came from talanov's experimentations https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=fr&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.newsocionicsmodel.narod.ru/dualy1.html&xid=17259,15700022,15700186,15700191,15700256,15700259,15700262,15700265,15700270&usg=ALkJrhi5jj1CIOHx2o0Qo534WfFW975XtQ https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=fr&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.newsocionicsmodel.narod.ru/dualy2.html&xid=17259,15700022,15700186,15700191,15700256,15700259,15700262,15700265,15700270&usg=ALkJrhi3tZVuuTbfJzfnm6EHl9MW6Gt17Q
Replying to post #7172 by fg
Teru Mikami
2019/09/28 (Sat) 20:50:50
#7169
Editing post #7169 by Teru Mikami
I don't usually make serious comments like this because no one on the (public) intarnets will ever settle for having a discussion and instead just throw rhetorical insults at your head (I'm not a hypocrite because I'm self-aware so it's perfectly okay trust me) but every single time I see a comment with a couple paragraphs in it, it ends up involving or name-dropping me some way or another, turning other people's type into a matter of my type or my intertype relations, which no one can agree on and I really don't give two shits about the opinions of teenage political extremists in non-mocking sense; and though it's funny to read, it's getting very annoying that this entire community is founded on an endless strain of misinterpretations and false assumptions from people who can't accept for a second that their brain is not actually the center of the universe and despite exuberating enlightenment and being very, very smart and at the cutting edge of 19th century political thought, they (believe it or not) are also prone to "being wrong", their opinion of themselves might not be all that correct and they might not be taking in the whole picture when they talk about people they spent 4x as much time gatekeeping against than actually talking to, especially after admitting that reading between the lines of what I say is something they have a lot of trouble with, and definitely not after just hearing a bunch of other takes from other people that pretty much claim the opposite is true; and while I had made peace with the fact that I live rent-free inside your tiny head as some kind of disabled jester who honks his horn whenever you open your mouth and given up on the idea of ever working past your stubborn shell, you are probably not as closed-minded as I first thought, so here's a kind of template slur of [more politely represented] ideas I sent to phsc earlier in our extremely chaotic Think Tank Group Chat while he was writing his comment:
Thing is, I think it goes against the point of the Myers-Briggs to use ability rather than preference, and type you intuitive simply because you enjoy learning about philosophy and things that aren't necessarily connected to the physical world, or put your intelligence on display. It's more important to focus on the how and why than the what, and even this is related to why I would type you S over N. When for example you type people, you don't try to find out why they do the things that they do, you apply your set of predefined characteristics on their behavior, almost like a manual, that you use to make things easier on you, to reduce possibilities, to arrive at one or a small few factual conclusions that you will always be able to prove and back up with what you can observe and what people have said about themselves. You compare them to others you have observed throughout history (who may or may not be accurately typed), use lists of traits that connect typology with philosophy or political preference, and don't want to listen when people tell you these things aren't that important, might overlap or are just straight up inaccurate. You take a system that denotes how people's minds function and that influences their behavior yet strip away all the layers of subjectivity, leaving you with only behavior which - to you - is fact, and who can disagree with objective fact? Well, sophists would. After seeing you do these same things over and over I just can't see you as N, which expands on possibilities and is experimental rather than literal and reductionist, would spend more time listening to what's actually being said than gauging whether or not the information comes from credible sources, and would see a bigger grey area between "fairy tale and fact", and not make as many black vs white statements and assumptions.
To use one of your historical examples, it's like the difference between Freud (S) and Jung (N), both of them being very influential but having vastly different approaches, Jung disliking Freud's approach because he saw it as overly constraining and negative, Freud disliking Jung and labeling all of his more out-of-the-box theories pseudoscience bullshit, despite both of them being psychologists and thus not really needing objective fact. Every other time you comment, I see you complaining about something the same way Freud complained about Jung, the same thing people keep pointing out yet you keep labeling insults and coming from "sophists", no matter who it comes from. It's like there's black or white, us or them, smart or dumb, right or wrong, N or insult, authoritative sources or sophists; like you pick two opposing traits, draw a line and write one on each side of a piece of paper and filter any information as falling under either of them so you're ultimately left with a system of "either-or" labeling with nothing in-between, like your thought process basically embodies the line that's gatekeeping the information, and because you don't see anything in-between, everyone who does must be wrong and dumb and doesn't know what they're talking about, no matter the content or context of what they're saying; and I think that's mostly because you have a lot of trouble filtering between opposing ideas not just in preference but in general, it's something I see you struggle with a lot, like you don't know that there are different shades of black and white that are equally viable as the extremes and if something even leans slightly more towards one than the other, they must also encompass that entirely, even if explicitly stated that they don't, you don't and won't recognize the possibility that there can be a "grey area" or that things aren't as simple as what you've reduced them to, and even if you do it's irrelevant as it's something you never actively try to do, meaning you somewhat lean towards a sensory preference.
This style of reductionary thinking limits possibilities, it centers itself as opposite to the expansive nature of intuition, and again it's much more important to look at how you interpret and deal with information than exactly what type of information falls into the realm of your personal interests, as that's not how actual Myers-Briggs preferences are measured.
This doesn't imply you're "full S" or that I'm a crony or a sophist or insulting you, it's simply applying the S-N dichotomy to how you think rather than what type of interests are most correlated with either end of the spectrum, and what I told phsc earlier today. Please stop arguing over my type on this page you retards
Replying to post #7169 by Teru Mikami
Taco110
Ni-Se
you'll see
ST
2019/09/28 (Sat) 19:00:50
#7168
Editing post #7168 by Taco110
Replying to post #7168 by Taco110
2019/09/28 (Sat) 17:33:25
#7166
Editing post #7166 by fg
i don't really use my past experience with type and i did not typed teru based on comparison with any other SLI. i typed him SLI by default . ILE don't work due to his lack of interest for any kind of system of though and his opposition about those kind of things, the simple idea of category make him whine. he is an irrational and Si-Ne > Ni-Se. SLI was a better option than ILE on my opinion. i tend to miss his jokes because i believe him to be stupid, so i tend to be more literal with him than with other, i don't struggle to understanding unilateral IRL or with people i am used to (ask kawaii). "you don't have a focus on finding out why or how people do things.". why. yes. how. no. if not i would not argued for CF for years. "S people learn the formula and apply it, N people learn how the formula was deduced to then apply such concepts and find out other formulas or more uses for them" i researched how the formula of socionics was deduced. it's based on philosophical distinction of "how" vs "why", ethic of principles vs utilitarian ethic, Kantian categories, Schopenhauer's influence on Freud + Jung . Sorry if i misjudge you but you seem to be biased by a form of cronyism with Teru. "even in things such as philosophy, you have a focus on reality, politics is a real thing, something you can act on, something that gives you benefit, and you seem to focus on that, while people like me focus on more socionics Ne aspects instead of Se aspects such as politics, such as metaphysics, logic" you are right i tend to deal with political philosophy rather than other field of philosophy, but i am very interested by metaphysics (especially the debate about free-will vs determinism) but i talk less about it because i am unsure of which position i am, while i am clear in politic (btw you just use the field of interest as a way to indicate me S while you say it was not the good method to follow). "I am easily able to accept different mentalities or opinions, while you seem to really think yours are better than others (you talking about Millenials shows that very well)" i would not choose them if i did not believed to be better than other :) . more seriously i can agree with this. i have lack of tolerance for a lot of mentalities. but it does not make me happy or feeling superior, those mentalities make me sincerely feel bad because most of time they don't even know that their are on the influence of it, and because the actual world encourage them to be low. my website looks terrible? lol,i do not see it as terrible, it do it's work." you seem not to consider the fact taht maybe people with completely different mentalities might be right, or that there is a grey area to something, instead of white or black," wrong again. i am often saying (heuristically most of time i have to admit) that Epicure may be right while i was almost always opposed to him philosophically. i can see 6w5 but i rarely fear rejection and tend to lack of conformism (in the site you can see that i have no problem with being alone vs the rest), you did not give many argument for it but it's the one that i have the less problem with. And most of your S argument is about my assertive temper who is clearly biased by the communication support (internet). Thyssen voted me IEI 947 so i am quite skeptical about him right now.
Replying to post #7166 by fg
2019/09/28 (Sat) 08:48:17
#7164
Editing post #7164 by fg
why S? phsc
Replying to post #7164 by fg
jt
ISFJ
<3 fg
2019/08/05 (Mon) 22:56:15
#6910
Editing post #6910 by jt
Esfps are probably socially awkward. Though they often make a lot of money because of the social awkwardness.
As of the perceived trolling or lack of logic get a time machine and go back before February 2016 (phsc), I was more what you call "logical" back before February 2016. After that, I think I joined mbtidatabank and oddly in mbtibase in June or July 2016 I was typed ENFP with a black brick wall page.
Replying to post #6910 by jt
2019/08/04 (Sun) 17:54:36
#6900
Editing post #6900 by Teru Mikami
bruh
Replying to post #6900 by Teru Mikami
2019/08/04 (Sun) 17:53:48
#6899
Editing post #6899 by Teru Mikami
looks like someone's splitting personalities again. get better bro
Replying to post #6899 by Teru Mikami
Brainer
ISTP
9w8 sp/sx
2019/08/04 (Sun) 17:44:34
#6896
Editing post #6896 by Brainer
No you're wrong. ESTPs have Fe. ESFPs have Fi. You're wrong. ISxPs we are too introverted to lack social awareness. I didn't talk about mirroring.
I don't care about your Lloyd bullshit. ESFPs are quite socially aware. ESTPs have Fe
Replying to post #6896 by Brainer
2019/08/04 (Sun) 09:32:50
#6890
Editing post #6890 by jt
who are you? what are you. (when describing SPs) I'm kinda using the ideas of Socrates/Descartes. I'm perhaps saying SPs are just going with the flow, not knowing what they're doing, and once they reach a certain level of awareness especially in intuition they realize the socializing skill they think they have is just them expressing their lack of awareness, it could manifest as cursing, anger, deviancy, etc. It could manifest in other ways if properly trained by their SJs, as god forbid diseases or embarrassing ailments (thats way beyond the level of ontological metaphysics for most people). Perhaps when I think of socializing the way I define and use it, perhaps is better expressed as the word "authentic friendship". And perhaps the socializing you think of, I perfer to consider it as mirroring of other peoples behavior patterns. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_neuron
Though if socializing in such way, some SP types can be easily brainwashed to supporting regimes as harmful as the Nazi Germany movement, such as the Nazi Youth. Though SP types remain like that even after the advent of adulthood. Of course away from the influences, the SPs including ESFPs come across as much more socially awkward. Just because they are "socially useful" doesn't mean they have a nagging feeling of awkwardness inside, you're only looking at the external for evidence. However the ESFP is socially awkward in reality. I'd refer you to look at social alter concept by Lloyd Demause. Are ESFPs really awkward outside of it? Yes
Replying to post #6890 by jt
2019/08/04 (Sun) 13:02:44
#6889
Editing post #6889 by jt
Replying to post #6889 by jt
2019/08/04 (Sun) 12:43:50
#6888
Editing post #6888 by Brainer
jt you're the most retarded person I have ever met here. By far.
ESFPs socially awkward ? Get your brain checked retard. ISTP macho ? What the hell ? "An excuse to not speed race cars or other such?"
DO YOU EVEN ENGLISH IDIOT ?? Hurr durr esfps are prostitute hahah
Fucking incel retard.
Replying to post #6888 by Brainer
2019/08/04 (Sun) 06:08:03
#6886
Editing post #6886 by jt
phsc you've given me an idea... perhaps ISTPs ARE socially awkward. However, the SJs really utilized several inventions ... coca cola/pepsi, iPhones, and thus set up a society to help distract not just ISTPs, but ESTPs, ISFPs, ESFPs. Yes, the truth is that the SP temperament IS indeed socially awkward. Are these SP types REALLY socializing?
I hate to have to examples for each of the four types... sigh.
ISTP: is being macho and playing video games really just an excuse to not speed race cars or other such? God forbid, if they think about their feelings towards their mom and dad. ESTP is similar, though you'd have to discuss it in a more religious way using images such as in Lloyd Demause's work. As of the feeler SP types ESFP ISFP, you'd do the same strategies to make them not obsessess over toxic makeup, prostitution, or listening to music 247. And of course, the general senses (iphone, food, etc)
Replying to post #6886 by jt
tman
2019/08/02 (Fri) 15:06:44
#6859
Editing post #6859 by tman
Right low Fe vs higher Fe. But even high Fe can be rude. It's more about awarness.
Replying to post #6859 by tman
2019/08/02 (Fri) 11:00:39
#6849
Editing post #6849 by tman
Oh, okay.
Replying to post #6849 by tman
2019/08/02 (Fri) 10:56:01
#6848
Editing post #6848 by fg
because he said on his comment about teru that LSI was the equivalent of ISTP.
Replying to post #6848 by fg
2019/08/02 (Fri) 10:47:27
#6847
Editing post #6847 by tman
Because (in terms of functions) he doesn't use Fe-Ti. Whenever FG get's questioned on something philosophy related, and becomes convinced the person has no idea what there talking about, he will generally respond with "I have half a god damn PHD, I don't need this shit." You can also see him being completely unwilling to engage with you on this page beyond, "your and idiot fuck off." That would be pretty shoddy reasoning for Te in and of it's self, but then when has FG ever really shown signs of Fe? I get the impression that he can sometimes come of a rude without realizing it, once again, not like an Fe user would never do that, but it seems to happen a lot. His arguments are blunt and to the point, consered with getting the point across without showing signs of concern for the emotional atmosphere of the conversation, or social dynamics. I mean, I guess all of those could be an INFJ. But what signs do we have that he is?
In terms of letters, this is even worse. FG cares a lot about logic. He dosn't realy show any signs of feeling. Also, your taking a conisdence of id number and turing it into some kind of weird, pusdo mystical bullshit to prove he's INFJ? Come on man, really? How could that prove anything?
Fg, why you saying "learn socinocincs" when jt dosn't have a socincoics vote?
Replying to post #6847 by tman
2019/08/02 (Fri) 03:17:39
#6845
Editing post #6845 by jt
I suppose ISFJ seems wrong. Why not INFJ?
This page is id 75
"INFJ" in the English Gematria system equals 75 (9+50+6+10), which reduces to 12, which reduces to 3
Replying to post #6845 by jt
2019/08/02 (Fri) 03:16:37
#6844
Editing post #6844 by jt
Replying to post #6844 by jt
2019/08/02 (Fri) 06:45:22
#6843
Editing post #6843 by fg
jt what do you don't understand in "learn socionics" and "Get out of this site"?
Replying to post #6843 by fg
2019/08/02 (Fri) 01:49:40
#6840
Editing post #6840 by jt
What is cancer (the disease)? Either way, despite this special page of yours,
Also Teru, assuming your mbti is either ISTP (translate to socionics -> ISTj -> Beta) or ENTP (translate to socionics -> Alpha) keep in mind that there are people there that are more socially private (Gammas, Deltas). Gammas and Deltas in socionics indicates use of Te/Fi though perhaps Fi hurts in the social popularity status game
Though I'd like to know, what circumstances propeled you to get not only competent at cursing/swearing, but using Ti function to socialize while using swear/curse words and meme manipulation, gossip, etc.
Replying to post #6840 by jt
2019/08/01 (Thu) 22:17:49
#6835
Editing post #6835 by Teru Mikami
prostate cancer is caused by abstinence and he is a volcel. obviously better than testicular cancer. tman singe incompétent get off this site or learn your cancer.
Replying to post #6835 by Teru Mikami
2019/08/01 (Thu) 17:28:23
#6834
Editing post #6834 by tman
phsc is testicual cancer.
Replying to post #6834 by tman
2019/08/01 (Thu) 15:17:00
#6830
Editing post #6830 by tman
jt: I think fg is an ISFJ, becuse he's such a kind, thoughtfull person, who loves facts and information! What a big softy!
fg: You are litterly worse then cancer.
Replying to post #6830 by tman
2019/08/01 (Thu) 15:12:10
#6829
Editing post #6829 by tman
Okay so here's what I was trying to say.
jt, we both agree your an ISFJ 6, and you're tag says "
Replying to post #6829 by tman
2019/08/01 (Thu) 11:11:38
#6828
Editing post #6828 by tman
Ignor this coment, it only posted half of what I was trying to say, and it won't let me edit or delete.
Replying to post #6828 by tman
2019/08/01 (Thu) 15:05:28
#6827
Editing post #6827 by tman
Replying to post #6827 by tman
2019/07/31 (Wed) 10:14:30
#6795
Editing post #6795 by Teru Mikami
wrong. fg your reasoning is bad.
Replying to post #6795 by Teru Mikami
2019/07/31 (Wed) 02:41:32
#6794
Editing post #6794 by fg
when i said remove you dirty vote and comments from my page i did not meant you to say even more bullshit on my page. Get out of this site. you are worst than cancer.
Replying to post #6794 by fg
2019/07/30 (Tue) 23:51:46
#6788
Editing post #6788 by jt
ISFJs and INTJs are more similar than most people think honestly.
ISFJs love book stores. INTJs love university libraries built next to a laboratory. Both love to be indoors. ISFJs alienate many women out (absoultely true...)
Philosophy degree is typically INTP, however, given how functionwise INTP differs from INTJ, (not that an INTJ wouldn't major in philosophy)
fg, I remembered some of your comments back in mbtibase and I thought, INTJ, ENTJ, yeah right. Note that in the image that kittens are in it. Also, teru, how do you manage to curse on a regular basis
Replying to post #6788 by jt
2019/07/30 (Tue) 20:11:52
#6786
Editing post #6786 by Teru Mikami
socionics = mbti
Replying to post #6786 by Teru Mikami
2019/07/30 (Tue) 19:08:43
#6785
Editing post #6785 by fg
remove your dirty vote and comment from my page.
Replying to post #6785 by fg
2019/07/30 (Tue) 18:19:58
#6782
Editing post #6782 by jt
ISFJ males typically don't, you know, folow the stereotype..
ISFJ - "leading with introverted sensing and then extroverted feeling - the type most focused on tangible information and the opinions of others. Also capable of being fantastic caring friends who always remember your birthday by sending your a beautifully wrapped gift with your favorite color wrapping paper. But not when in counterphobic mode- a level of development soon outgrown with some effort."
Replying to post #6782 by jt
2019/07/09 (Tue) 06:51:56
#6620
Editing post #6620 by fg
JT or whoever you are. learn that socionics =/= mbti
Replying to post #6620 by fg
2019/07/09 (Tue) 06:26:48
#6615
Editing post #6615 by jt
i have not heard up with the sakinorva discord gossip. last time I checked fg account is listed as a possibly inactive user. Either way, teru, you have to prove you deserve the N (intuitive) status
YAY thanks teru 615 is the first 3 digits of something (an old user id number somewhere?) - I totally forgot the exact but I thought this would be comment id 6614
Replying to post #6615 by jt
2019/07/09 (Tue) 06:25:31
#6614
Editing post #6614 by Teru Mikami
I'm sure a tedious preference for facts and simplifying things into objective rules/measuring criteria would land u on the intuitive side of the spectrum
Replying to post #6614 by Teru Mikami
2019/07/09 (Tue) 06:14:40
#6611
Editing post #6611 by fg
nope, it's a characteristics. it's like being called short while not being by someone who on the contrary is and clam to be tall, even if he is objectivly shorter than you. the comment is not about the person being x characteristics like it is in an insult, but a wrong perception of relation between things and concepts.
Replying to post #6611 by fg
2019/07/09 (Tue) 05:54:02
#6610
Editing post #6610 by Teru Mikami
S = insult
Replying to post #6610 by Teru Mikami
2019/07/09 (Tue) 05:38:14
#6609
Editing post #6609 by fg
being typed as S by the most fake N is quite laughable
Replying to post #6609 by fg
2019/06/29 (Sat) 20:44:28
#6531
Editing post #6531 by Teru Mikami
stop talking shit in dead servers & do it in mine bro
Replying to post #6531 by Teru Mikami
2019/06/28 (Fri) 03:24:06
#6523
Editing post #6523 by fg
haha
Replying to post #6523 by fg
2019/06/26 (Wed) 14:16:58
#6515
Editing post #6515 by Teru Mikami
ESFj-Fe subtype: "The ethical subtype is kind and affable, but obstinate and pig-headed when significant questions are directed towards them; because of this they appear to show excessive persistence. Are inclined to finish what they start, find it difficult to stop doing something after starting it and subsequently may waste time and regret it later. Try to be serious, restrained and polite in dialogue, but often render strong emotional pressure upon those that challenge their point of view. Like to take the interlocutor by the hand, to touch his/her clothes. Able to receive visitors in their homes but is more keen of interacting with others in public. Like give gifts to friends and relatives and for this purpose find suitable occasions. Dresses tastefully, but is rather modest. Gait is projected in quick actions, as if about to jump up; more often thin and a little angular. Their face can easily replace signs of discontent and indignation with a radiant smile."
Replying to post #6515 by Teru Mikami
2019/06/15 (Sat) 21:17:33
#6427
Editing post #6427 by jt
I learned a new French word, bagage means background
Replying to post #6427 by jt
2019/06/12 (Wed) 17:29:06
#6407
Editing post #6407 by Brainer
High School is indeed 3 year my guy. Middle School is 4 years and Elementary is 5.
Replying to post #6407 by Brainer
2019/06/12 (Wed) 01:50:22
#6404
Editing post #6404 by jt
Is that true, in France high school is 3 years? 3 years of high school makes more sense than 4. Though French seem more people oriented (Feeling) and less business oriented which the US is full of (Thinking)
Replying to post #6404 by jt
2019/06/04 (Tue) 17:51:24
#6294
Editing post #6294 by Teru Mikami
cope
Replying to post #6294 by Teru Mikami
2019/06/04 (Tue) 15:57:03
#6293
Editing post #6293 by fg
i have not a mathematic related disability. i have a spatial and motricity related dyspraxia. i was not good in geometry for the spatial aspect of it. at 16 years old/ 2nd class of highschool i had among the best results of my class this year, my notes was around 16/17 in math. but i have to admit that most of time the two other year in my highschool part of scolarity i was around 11/20 and 14/20 ( i had the same teacher in my first and last year of highschool, highschool is during 3 years in france). i am not doing math since i am in college.
Replying to post #6293 by fg
2019/06/04 (Tue) 00:45:59
#6286
Editing post #6286 by Taco110
Sociotype.com is the 16personalities of socionics. Lame, cookie-cutter, milquetoast, surface-level bullshit.
Replying to post #6286 by Taco110
2019/06/03 (Mon) 19:40:53
#6283
Editing post #6283 by jt
I don't see how you are INTJ at all. You seem much more social than even an ISTJ, so I'm not sure... but you said you had some math or number based learning disability, (different from dsylexia) so I've never heard of dysphonia, dysgraphia, dyscalculia? before so that should factor you acting differently from typical xNTJ, so I still think you are xNTJ
Honestly, I don't really like the average math student in college either. Math is a great subject, but the students in the math classes...yuck.
Also Rene Descartes is ILL which is according to Talanov and ILL is INTj or INTP.
Replying to post #6283 by jt
2019/05/30 (Thu) 05:06:34
#6191
Editing post #6191 by fg
sociotype.com is certainly not a reliable source. read russian socionist work like talanov or stratievskaya instead.
Replying to post #6191 by fg
2019/05/30 (Thu) 00:50:13
#6186
Editing post #6186 by jt
how is ILI socionics mbti INTP? I suppose, ILI's definition of Introverted Thinking is (id block)
ILIs are often able to understand formal logical systems without difficulty. Nonetheless, most ILIs are often not interested in interpreting overly systematic or deterministic models of reality. The ILI's view of reality is a mental and often esoteric one, and models which focus on systematic connections with little apparent external basis. Instead, ILIs often ground themselves by focusing on real-world or practical examples of their mental wanderings. ILIs not uncommonly reject the notion of overly complicated theories in favor of simple, sensible interpretations that are easily understood and observe
... the INTPs I talked to do match with this definition
https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/ILI-INTp/
However, I have barely studied this socionics version of mbti
Replying to post #6186 by jt
2019/05/29 (Wed) 11:29:29
#6171
Editing post #6171 by fg
there is my new socionics article http://francois-garet.e-monsite.com/pages/descriptions-and-illustrations-of-each-socionics-type.html
Replying to post #6171 by fg
2019/05/28 (Tue) 02:33:57
#6155
Editing post #6155 by jt
@fg, all admin had to do is remove tinymce. he got into some real world distractions so he didn't do that. the admin's making money with the trolls, though you like the mbtibase website enough that
actually I want to change my vote for you to INTP - it feels right
regarding economics and theory, perhaps donate a euro or a french frac if possible to sakinorva (wait is this possible). as of me leaving, well since many of the other users have already stopped commenting it is highly likely I might too due to chance .. give it a month or two
Replying to post #6155 by jt
2019/05/26 (Sun) 15:32:53
#6132
Editing post #6132 by Teru Mikami
mbti Ni through the roof thinking jt is joseph
Replying to post #6132 by Teru Mikami
2019/05/26 (Sun) 10:08:40
#6130
Editing post #6130 by fg
josephty you destroy mbtibase with your trolls. i think you just should shut up and leave.
Replying to post #6130 by fg
2019/05/24 (Fri) 20:09:49
#6090
Editing post #6090 by jt
which one of your typings are a result of not having done enough reserach or life experiences, as a result you change it and publicly announce it
Replying to post #6090 by jt
2019/05/24 (Fri) 01:55:45
#6054
Editing post #6054 by fg
http://francois-garet.e-monsite.com/
there is my socionics site if you are interested in this area. carefull few of my typings in my first articles were wrong . however i corrected them in one article. a new article will probably arrive in one week.
Replying to post #6054 by fg
2019/05/13 (Mon) 17:05:33
#5952
Editing post #5952 by fg
yes . mainly asian religion.
Replying to post #5952 by fg
2019/05/13 (Mon) 16:20:12
#5950
Editing post #5950 by Teru Mikami
hey bro did u know jungian psychology has roots in religion
Replying to post #5950 by Teru Mikami
2019/05/13 (Mon) 15:23:08
#5944
Editing post #5944 by fg
*very constructive. be competent in what you do instead of advise someone who take seriously what he do to be less serious.
Replying to post #5944 by fg
2019/05/13 (Mon) 14:23:36
#5943
Editing post #5943 by fg
very constructive. be competent in what you do instead of advise someone to take seriously what he do.
Replying to post #5943 by fg
2019/05/12 (Sun) 22:16:33
#5938
Editing post #5938 by tman
You palce to much emphaeses on Socionics.
Replying to post #5938 by tman
2019/04/29 (Mon) 10:32:35
#5844
Editing post #5844 by Teru Mikami
you like to think hard and consider every possible side of an idea before making judgements
Replying to post #5844 by Teru Mikami
2019/04/29 (Mon) 05:18:59
#5842
Editing post #5842 by fg
i seriously don't get the INTP letter vote . i am not P. INTP function =/= LII. i wonder why i would be INTP by function.
Replying to post #5842 by fg
2019/04/01 (Mon) 12:37:27
#5762
Editing post #5762 by LadyX
Wow phsc - quite the imagination!
ISFJ - leading with introverted sensing and then extroverted feeling - the type most focused on tangible information and the opinions of others. Also capable of being fantastic caring friends who always remember your birthday by sending your a beautifully wrapped gift with your favorite color wrapping paper. But not when in counterphobic mode- a level of development soon outgrown with some effort.
I'll update my assessment to an IxxJ, but resist the normative demands to conform.
Replying to post #5762 by LadyX
2019/03/31 (Sun) 20:25:57
#5756
Editing post #5756 by LadyX
heh heh - counterphobics anonymous club
Replying to post #5756 by LadyX
2019/03/31 (Sun) 15:39:10
#5751
Editing post #5751 by Teru Mikami
taco110 you must not know about the J/P switch get out of here with your incompetence.
Replying to post #5751 by Teru Mikami
2019/03/31 (Sun) 02:05:08
#5749
Editing post #5749 by Taco110
Replying to post #5749 by Taco110
2019/03/30 (Sat) 12:04:32
#5747
Editing post #5747 by fg
mais votre vote me paraît symptomatique d'une mauvaise réflexion . Il me semble plus affecté par des affects que par des arguments. Si argument il y a pour supporter ce vote, j'aimerai l'entendre. S est ridicule, on me reproche souvent d'être trop dans la théorie et trop abstrait, je suis élève en licence de philosophie. F semble tout aussi indéfendable lorsque on connaît mon indifférence voir mon aversion par rapport a une quelconque harmonie, vous êtes d'ailleurs le seul membre de ce site à ne pas me voter comme un T à 100%. peut être qu'il vaut mieux argumenter plutôt que se contenter d'affirmer :)
Replying to post #5747 by fg
2019/03/30 (Sat) 00:11:37
#5744
Editing post #5744 by LadyX
Il vaut mieux réfléchir :)
Replying to post #5744 by LadyX
2019/03/29 (Fri) 18:20:24
#5740
Editing post #5740 by fg
Lady X. i just can't take this vote seriously.
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heavyheart
2018/10/05 (Fri) 19:17:22
#3539
Editing post #3539 by heavyheart
Someone posted this on a group chat a long time ago
" When she's all alone she sneaks out to be with me And what I'm sayin is she ain't playin (she creams with me) And sleeps between the sheets "
That someone could be anyone
Replying to post #3539 by heavyheart
Nyx
5w4 593 Sx/Sp
2018/09/17 (Mon) 23:12:55
#3322
Editing post #3322 by Nyx
Napoleon's steed looks a little bewildered.. contrasting with the grace bestowed upon it with that magnificent tail bow.
Replying to post #3322 by Nyx
2018/09/17 (Mon) 14:48:33
#3320
Editing post #3320 by Teru Mikami
sperg
Replying to post #3320 by Teru Mikami
2018/09/17 (Mon) 11:47:28
#3319
Editing post #3319 by fg
why it would be a shame to had the proof that i verify informations?
Replying to post #3319 by fg
2018/09/17 (Mon) 11:16:57
#3318
Editing post #3318 by Teru Mikami
yeah but you've got napoleon's dick in your search history who's the winner now
Replying to post #3318 by Teru Mikami
2018/09/17 (Mon) 11:07:50
#3317
Editing post #3317 by fg
and even if it is indeed his one . it is natural that a dead penis became smaller. and even if is penis was indeed a micropenis, what does it change? it would not change the fact that he was one of the most powerful man of his time and that he have totally changed the whole institutions of his country. how many porn actor did do the half of what he did ? none.
Replying to post #3317 by fg
2018/09/17 (Mon) 10:35:17
#3316
Editing post #3316 by fg
there is actually no proof that it was his one who had be finded. and two person claim to possess it . you should made some researsch before claiming something.
Replying to post #3316 by fg
2018/09/17 (Mon) 09:58:36
#3315
Editing post #3315 by Teru Mikami
napoleon had a micropenis
Replying to post #3315 by Teru Mikami
2018/09/17 (Mon) 09:55:02
#3314
Editing post #3314 by fg
Galaxy Strider you said that i was the most J user when you were on the discord, then you are typing me as SLE. we can add it with the many proof of your lack of consistency.all of it, just because i hurted your little feeling when i typed you 316 . you are the typical example of a black sensing revengefullness without any logical function for supporting it. thanks for bringing me even more argument for my typing. since you typed me SLE/ the conqueror. i will add this Napoleonic painting for symbolizing my superiority on you as well as your pathetic defeat.
Replying to post #3314 by fg
2018/08/31 (Fri) 17:06:37
#3131
Editing post #3131 by fg
"While Ones certainly do think, they are primarily people of action, and are only interested in ideas that lead to some practical result. Fives, however, are truly a mental type: they can ponder any proposition or idea and do not particularly care about its practical ramifications."
"Ones are people of strong convictions and opinions as befitting a type in the Instinctive (or Gut) Triad. Average to unhealthy Ones are entirely convinced of the rightness of their views, and respect people who hold similar strength in their convictions. They think as a way of buttressing their already established beliefs. Average to unhealthy Fives tend to get lost in a maze of uncertainty. "
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/misidentifying-1-and-5
based on it i am indeed 1>5.
Replying to post #3131 by fg
*~snow~*
2018/08/28 (Tue) 15:01:54
#3088
Editing post #3088 by *~snow~*
I'm going with LSI. LIE also makes sense somewhat, but overall I think how principled, firm in your views, and obsessive about logical correctness you are points to Ti > Te.
Replying to post #3088 by *~snow~*
Dr. Klemphoff
5w6
LII
2018/08/27 (Mon) 22:09:55
#3042
Editing post #3042 by Dr. Klemphoff
LSI-Ti: The ISTj Logical Subtype
Description by V. Meged and A. Ovcharov
Appearance
The logical subtype is self-assured, calm, restrained, correct and impenetrable. At times he may seem arrogant. Sufficiently kind, imperturbable, and unemotional. Very polite and attentive to details in conversation, likes to specify and clarify everything, but sometimes becomes too focused on details that are nonessential to others. Unhurried, perhaps even slow. Likes receiving exhaustively comprehensive and thorough information to his inquiries. Dislikes ambiguity. Internally, he is quite collected. Never loses his spirit and sense of perseverance. Tries to encourage those who are in need of support. Has a direct, motionless gaze that seems to look right through and not at his conversation partner. His movements are measured but constrained; there is a tendency to shuffle his feet against the floor when walking. When he turns, he does so with his entire body such that it sometimes seems like his neck is fixed to his shoulders; doesn't like to turn his head.
Character
A sober realist who knows how to find a way out of difficult situations. Stoic: overcomes difficulties without complaining. Dislikes running too much ahead and is able to patiently wait for the outcome. It is difficult to convince him to change his stances. He is uncompromising in matters that he considers to be important. Prefers to prepare for everything in advance since he doesn't like improvising; feels uncomfortable with change and instability. Somewhat contradictory and given to internal doubts, but ultimately does not let his internal vacillations undermine his main orientations. Knows how to consistently and persistently overcome all obstacles. Prefers to implement his knowledge into practice. Tries to stabilize any situation. Bravely endures through misfortunes and adversity while not losing his heart and spirit.
Lacks sufficient flexibility in dealing with people and is poor at taking their individual abilities into account. Does not trust those who are light-headed and light-hearted because he is not sure of whether their feelings are trustworthy. Tolerant of defects of those who are close to him; serves as a reliable support for them. Quickly grows tired of interacting with people; quite tolerant of solitude. Restrained and unobtrusive. The objective matters for him are more important than personal relationships and feelings. Usually a private person who does not readily share his experiences with outsiders. Doesn't demonstrate what he is feeling: hunger, fear, pain, etc. Tries not to burden others with himself; relies on the help of close people only in extreme cases.
He loves precision and concreteness in everything. Consistent and thorough in his activities and decisions. Careful and thorough in carrying out his tasks. Intolerant of slackness and irresponsibility from others. Follows through his assignments to their completion. Trusts only in official sources of information. A good researcher of narrow issues. Delves into all the details without dismissing and losing sight of anything minor. Accurately maintains records, likes to clarify facts, readily informs those who turn to him for advice about any regulations, about which he is usually informed. In an administrative position, he can establish a clear work regimen, discipline, and order. As a manger, he most often adheres to a chain of command. Very operative and conscientious, possesses a sense of duty. Demanding of himself and others. Tries to be even and reasonable, not go to extremes or fall into illusions.
Modest and unpretentious in his household. Tends to be conservative in his views and habits. If he finds his work interesting and inspirational, may give it his preference while neglecting his personal needs, may see the main purpose of his life in his work. Attentive and friendly companion who knows how to patiently listen and give useful advice.
Description by Victor Gulenko
Most rational logical type. Very constructive. Their aims are in hierarchy; works thoroughly and brings everything to its end without missing a detail. Not very dynamic and does not transfer confusion. Outwardly is strict, sustained, somewhat single-minded. In working situations is official, and even with close relatives can manifest a barrack style of behaviour. Clothing is conservative, for males: his suit is often in a strict, dark tone.
Sexual behavior
Restrained in their expression of feelings with an aim towards clarity and definition; disposed to flatness in relations and reacts negatively to quarrels. Inclined to doubts and distrustfulness. Often show concern about their partner and provide them with pleasant gifts and trifles. Require a sensitive, delicate partner, since they are straight-line/simple in sexual contacts and sufficiently restrained in the positive and negative expression of emotions. Need an attentive, thoughtful partner, whom will not tie them to their will. Their partner should yield to their persuasions and strive to satisfy all of their requirements. This article incorporates text from Wikisocion.org.
Replying to post #3042 by Dr. Klemphoff
fiddlediddle
INFJ
1w9
IEI - Fe
2018/08/27 (Mon) 21:44:45
#3039
Editing post #3039 by fiddlediddle
Hard to say. I'd type you as either ENTJ (going by your videos) or ISTJ.
Replying to post #3039 by fiddlediddle
2018/08/25 (Sat) 05:33:16
#3008
Editing post #3008 by fg
i have one https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOYbCyEgNvD_Uu4sVsA_lbw/videos?sort=dd&shelf_id=0&view=0 but it's in french.
Replying to post #3008 by fg
2018/08/25 (Sat) 05:12:44
#3005
Editing post #3005 by fg
about relationship i probaby look like more to gamma because gamma's description seem a lot related with serious topic discussion, but if we go by how i percieve the world it's very beta related i tend to see people as member of hierarchy, superstructure, country, social class and have a tendency to attribute some characteristics to this belongings.
Replying to post #3005 by fg
2018/08/24 (Fri) 17:09:51
#3002
Editing post #3002 by fg
get LIE on http://www.sociotype.com's test, get LSI on talanov's
Replying to post #3002 by fg
2018/08/09 (Thu) 18:58:05
#2748
Editing post #2748 by fg
i partly disagree because of the comparison made on the socionicstype.com(who use reinin dichotomies, that is often invalidate by representative example of the types) but you are right that i have a lot of socio Te. you are very convincing about the enneagramm 1 social typing but when i did the enneagramm test on sarkinova 2 was my last type with -36 as a score. so 1w2 is less probable than 1w9 if we take in account those score.i thank you for your explanation.
Replying to post #2748 by fg
2018/08/09 (Thu) 18:51:06
#2747
Editing post #2747 by fg
the comparison between the types in socionicstype.com are related to reinin dichotomies. a thing that is criticized by a lot of socionists (i'm also against this dichotomies) in general socionicstype.com is a very limited source. i advise you to watch the descriptions made in wiki socionics instead of socionicstype.com .
Replying to post #2747 by fg
2018/08/09 (Thu) 18:02:05
#2742
Editing post #2742 by fg
i was questionning him about his socionics typing.
Replying to post #2742 by fg
2018/08/09 (Thu) 18:00:57
#2741
Editing post #2741 by fg
Kamidere would be a better term for describing me than Tsundere
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