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Lady X


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INFP 6
ISTJ 2
INTP 1
4w5 5
5w4 3
6w5 1
5w6 1
sx/sp 4
sp/sx 2
sp/so 1
sx/so 1
IEI 4
ILI 3
LSI 2
SLE 1
SLI 1
EFLV 2
LEVF 2
ELVF 1
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LadyX

intp

5

2019/10/17 (Thu) 23:16:55

#7255

I'm a novice on the psyche yoga system.  On the test I scored VLFE, but that is improbable.  After reading through all the types, I resonate most with LEVF and LVEF - but I probably have a lot to learn before I can make accurate use of this system.

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx

ILI

2019/10/17 (Thu) 13:19:43

#7251

Lady X, why do you think your VLEF?

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Thyssen

ILI

2019/10/12 (Sat) 02:55:07

#7227

>votes INFJ, but just for that comment

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/10/11 (Fri) 17:07:53

#7226

also phsc stop despising  as much the arbitrary, a reasonable amount of arbitrary is necesseary and even appreciable.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/10/11 (Fri) 16:39:45

#7225

Her original comment came off to me as being more concealing than evasive, though I can see how it can be seen as the latter. Either way, if she truly is a 4 pretending to be knowledgable about poetry than she actually is, then she would have namedropped various "deep" or avant-garde poets without providing an explicit reasoning for her preference. Evasion, typically, is not a 4 tactic, acting is.

I will admit I'm unable to counter whether fg's argument about meter is applicable, since I'm an amateur with no real understanding of meter.

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/10/11 (Fri) 15:12:04

#7224

nope we were talking about socionics

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx

ILI

2019/10/11 (Fri) 14:46:27

#7223

I thought we were refering to CF. 

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/10/11 (Fri) 14:45:09

#7222

Tman you are making a confusion between Cf Te and socionics Te

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Tman

INTP

5w4/1w9/4w5 Sp/Sx

ILI

2019/10/11 (Fri) 14:38:57

#7221

Actuatly, It think of being concered with the structer of a poam of being more Te then Ti. 

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phsc

2019/10/11 (Fri) 14:10:17

#7220

There is no reason for liking complexity or following ARBITRARY rules that set such forms of art.

Also it seems like LadyX wants to come off as deeper or someone who is more into poetry than actually is, read fg's comment, shows it kind of well, very 4sh.

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/10/11 (Fri) 14:06:04

#7219

Any poetry-reader is bound to read predominantly 4 poets, since it is a 4 dominated field. The reasoning she gave for her preferences is explicitly Ti. An INFP IEI 4 would care less about the meter or rhyme of the poem than the overall beauty or "meaningfulness".

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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/10/11 (Fri) 11:18:22

#7218

a 4 poetry. (like most)

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/10/11 (Fri) 10:53:00

#7217

Sure - I'm a big fan of Hungarian poetry.



Ady Endre

Láttalak...
 



Láttalak a multkor,
Mosolyogva néztél,
Éppen úgy, mint akkor,
Mikor megigéztél.
Vérpiros ajkaid
Mosolyogni kezdtek;
Olyan bájos voltál,
Mint mikor azt súgtad:
»Édesem, szeretlek!«
 



Láttalak a multkor,
Mosolyogva néztél.
Gyönyörü vagy most is,
De meg nem igéztél.
Vérpiros ajkaid
Mosolyogni kezdtek;
Olyan bájos voltál,
Mint mikor hazudtad
Ezt a szót: »Szeretlek!«


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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/10/11 (Fri) 01:42:53

#7216

"My favorite literature is poetry that adheres to extremely strict rules of meter and rhyme, while presenting evocative imagery at the same time. Even better if the rules are unique to the author.  My favorite visual art is completely abstract but looks more real that reality.  Shhh.... don't tell anyone...." could you give some examples of author that you like because i think the answer that you give does indicate us what you want us to think about your taste rather than your taste (independantly if there is adequation in them). I do poetry and the description that you gave is common to most of people who do poetry (including me) being abstract at the same time as applying strict rules is the basis of poetry. having something abstract that look more real that reality is the objective of poetry. You simply answered to this question "i like good classical poetry/ i like classical poetry that have an effect on me". You did not say anything about poetry at all. This kind of answer is often typical of a lack of knowledge about the field. Just like those who say "i like philosopher who can answer about deep meaning" it is an indicator of their lack of knowledge in the field that impede them to see where are the distinction, what is the problem that mobilized their philosophical senses, where are the differences of methodology and why there is those differences, or even simply defining a simple field of interest.  Answer to "deep meaning" the goal for most, even analytic philosophy that tend to give up on metaphysic and more "deeper" anthropological question is all about meaning that they consid as deep (logical problem most of time). You don't seem to analyze the essence of things that's why a 5 vote is ridiculous for you. But let's go back to poetry i will gave you some clues that may lead you to give a proper answer . I like x imagery (ancient greek imagery, christian imagery, urban imagery etc...), i like x theme (duality, human condition, death etc...) i like x author (Baudelaire, Rimbaud, Verlaine, Goethe etc...).

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/10/07 (Mon) 23:10:12

#7203

My favorite literature is poetry that adheres to extremely strict rules of meter and rhyme, while presenting evocative imagery at the same time. Even better if the rules are unique to the author.  My favorite visual art is completely abstract but looks more real that reality.  Shhh.... don't tell anyone....

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Jacobus

INFJ

4w5

EIE

2019/10/07 (Mon) 17:58:38

#7202

LadyX, who are you favorite writer and philosophers? Your tastes in literature seem to tend toward enneagram 4 writers.

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/09/07 (Sat) 00:54:53

#7054

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/07/17 (Wed) 04:51:14

#6666

None of the images of my MBTI and Enneagram test results are uploading...

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/07/17 (Wed) 04:49:09

#6665

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/07/17 (Wed) 04:44:40

#6664

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/07/17 (Wed) 04:42:56

#6663

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Teru Mikami

2019/06/07 (Fri) 16:27:38

#6319

ight so much for invite perms

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phsc

2019/06/07 (Fri) 13:38:31

#6318

Hi there LadyX, Teru made a discord server, and some people want you there

https://discord.gg/sfmeAFF if that does not work add me at phsc#1568

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Teru Mikami

2019/05/31 (Fri) 13:14:43

#6225

fg your opinion is wrong because of your age and philosophical beliefs.

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/05/31 (Fri) 12:49:36

#6224


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fg

xxTJ

6w5

Beta ST

2019/05/24 (Fri) 03:10:20

#6055

have you any argument or your only ability is too invoke the word "counterphobic"when you are in a difficult position. You are just like those who invoke "racists" to discredite opponents's views or alt righter who scream "sjw" whenever they are in front of a divergence of opinion. You tend to use naturalist sophism( trying to discredite an opinion because of it's origin (coming from supposed 6) rather than explaining why the opinion/belief is wrong).

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LadyX

intp

5

2019/05/24 (Fri) 01:25:20

#6052

Ahh - the intrigue -  thanks for not imagining me as an extrovert!  And as a poorly developed head-type I'd like to stir up a little counterphobia and waste everyone's time with petty skirmishes.

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phsc

2019/05/23 (Thu) 17:57:59

#6047

There is a duplicate, move it's votes to here http://index.sakinorva.net/view?id=6110

 

About the 6w5 votes, they have been here since before I made my IDR vote, so it wasn't purely on the argument about religion, you're also assuming people vote out of bias which is not always the case, politics and economics are not really N things, the vast majority of people that study them in real life are S, and what defines one's argumentative style is quite deeper than MBTI as by letters, her(didn't know it was a she and not a he) argumentative style does not remind me of INTx, the reply that was made to my reply in fg's poll mentioning a logical fallacy is a good example.

This generates a thing I will also mention in my reply to tman, but interest in many areas of knowledge without actually studying them is what defines a 5? this can be me assuming things, but when you study things you migh type things related to that, such as me typing many economists because it is a field of knowledge I am interested in and actually learn about, the only other person that seems to be quite close to me in said field is fg, the same for philosophy but in this case fg has more votes in it, I see LadyX not doing that much, also some quite weird stuff, function votes as MBTI letter votes (fg's poll reply) and literally no function votes or socionics votes (one could say that LadyX disagrees with function magic, but it turns out that she uses it, again take a look at fg's poll reply) and I, as someone who highly identifies with 5 and it looks like the website agrees that is my type, other than johncena and bloomer, got here without knowing anything about socionics and quickly learned about it, I find that at least weird not to happen since it fits 5, also a general lack of a more deeply analytical view which is what a INTx and 5s seem to have.

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ResoluteSoul

INFJ

1w2 145

2019/05/23 (Thu) 14:38:40

#6041

I for one do not find it reasonable to be typing someone sensor and Enneagram 6 based on a heated argument about religion...especially due to the infamy surrounding enneagram 6 and sensors in general, makes it seem like it was a vote based on intense malice and spite rather than any sort of logical process. 

I do not know LadyX as a person, but I could only dream of the type of person she is. That being said, she seems to have deep interests in the abstract-politics, typology, philosophy, economics, and others. Generally, people who hold these kinds of interests are usually not sensor-especially not 100% sensor. Additionally, I would argue her argumentative style resembles one of an INTx type.

I know humanity can do better; we can prove it ourselves as individuals.

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strawberry crisis

enfp

7

2018/10/30 (Tue) 13:22:27

#3922

That idea that we can only type ourselves best is totally false. The crux of most typology is superficial, and oftentimes our understanding of who we are is naturally too complicated to pigeonhole into personality types that cover only certain domains of traits that “tend to go together,” however a theorist would decide that. We’re complicated, contradictory creatures, and most confusion in typology just comes from the ambiguity it presents when dealing with the literal. There’s always a deeper meaning to it, you just have to search for it. It’s total bogus, but if you follow the pretense, it’ll take you somewhere... or everywhere, really. So many people are very confident about typing characters and celebrities and whoever else because we're only exposed to certain details about them that usually point toward something easy to pin down in a personality system. It turns out that the more you know about someone, the hazier their types seem to get. Why is that? It’s not because they’re just obviously a different type, but it’s because typology fails where people want it to matter. It’s just fun, superficial nonsense.

Typology is fun because the discussion is never actually about people, but the theory: who understands it? who doesn’t understand it? how can it be distorted? how can it be misinterpreted? how can it be reworked? how can we improve it? It’s another domain of total nonsense, but it’s enlightening nonsense. I’ve always been amused by how much everything surrounding typology has told us more about people than typology itself, and it’s that putting it on a golden pedestal for revealing things about yourself that really cracks me up. It’s not typology doing the work, it’s you doing the work. When it is typology doing the work, something usually goes wrong. Maybe you start believing in getting locked into certain types. Maybe you begin believing in One True Type theory. Maybe you start trying to fix yourself using methods that don’t suit you.

But there’s that problem: so many people just don’t understand how to use personality theories correctly. Forget that you don’t know a person well enough to type them—what about not ever being able to apply a personality theory correctly? I’ve never been very keen on using type to determine how somebody will be, because I’ve realized that (within the typology community), I’ve best gotten to know people on terms decided by how they approach typology. Maybe you could argue that I guess even after spending a couple of years hanging around here in my idle time, I still don’t really know everyone well enough to know their One True Type, but with every moment I spend with somebody, I get to know them more as a person. And if you understand how to use type theory, you can type that person you know adequately. It’s not “narrowing down to the right answer,” but more like “getting a bigger picture and applying theories correctly to type them like how you’ve known them.”

So, no. I don’t agree that we understand our own type best, but I would instead say that we know ourselves best.

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switchblades

INFP

delete

2018/10/30 (Tue) 09:55:00

#3911

how are we typing someone we literally have no idea who they are yet? unless you all know more than I do...

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LadyX

intp

5

2018/10/26 (Fri) 01:31:08

#3841

Thanks!  INFJ + 4 would be my "aspirational" type - if I could change types.

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dateusernamevote
20/06/14 23:58tch INTP
19/10/16 20:35Ch-ngch-ng INP
21/02/26 11:05phsc INFP
19/10/11 02:00Jacobus INTP
20/06/03 14:32Thyssen INTP
20/05/18 12:56Tman INFP
19/10/16 05:38Diobono INTP
19/05/23 14:39ResoluteSoul INTJ
19/10/11 12:32fg INFP
21/02/26 09:40Taco110 INTP
20/06/15 00:06LadyX INTP
dateusernamevote
20/06/14 23:58tch INFP
20/06/03 14:32Thyssen INFP
19/10/11 12:09phsc INFP
19/10/11 02:10fg INFP
19/10/07 11:14Tman INFP
19/02/03 03:18HairyBalls- ISTJ
21/02/26 09:40Taco110 INFP
18/10/28 07:39Teru Mikami INTP
dateusernamevote
20/06/03 14:32Thyssen 4w5
20/04/19 20:48shinkim717 5w4
19/10/11 12:32fg 4w5
19/10/11 02:00Jacobus 5w4
19/10/07 18:43phsc 4w5
20/12/28 16:55Tman 4w5
19/05/23 14:39ResoluteSoul 5w6
21/02/26 09:40Taco110 4w5
18/10/28 00:57LadyX 5w4
dateusernamevote
20/06/03 14:32Thyssen sp/sx
19/10/16 20:35Ch-ngch-ng sx/sp
19/10/11 02:00Jacobus sx/sp
19/10/07 11:16Tman sx/sp
21/02/26 09:40Taco110 sx/sp
18/10/28 07:39Teru Mikami sp/sx
20/06/15 00:07LadyX sx/so
dateusernamevote
21/01/22 17:16Tman 459
20/06/15 00:12LadyX 548
20/06/03 14:32Thyssen 459
19/10/07 19:55phsc 495
dateusernamevote
20/07/10 23:15Flower-like LSI
20/06/03 14:32Thyssen ILI
20/04/26 12:29Tman IEI
19/10/17 01:41LadyX ILI
19/10/11 12:32fg IEI
19/10/11 12:12phsc IEI
19/10/11 02:00Jacobus LSI
19/09/07 15:15Teru Mikami ILI
21/02/26 09:40Taco110 IEI
dateusernamevote
19/12/08 18:02Jacobus LEVF
19/10/17 15:27fg EFLV
19/10/17 23:08LadyX LEVF
19/10/16 18:45phsc EFLV
20/12/28 16:56Tman ELVF
dateusernamevote
19/10/17 23:08LadyX HEXACO
19/10/16 18:45phsc HEXACO