I learned a new French word, bagage means background

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High School is indeed 3 year my guy. Middle School is 4 years and Elementary is 5.

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Is that true, in France high school is 3 years? 3 years of high school makes more sense than 4. Though French seem more people oriented (Feeling) and less business oriented which the US is full of (Thinking)

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cope

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i have not a mathematic related disability. i have a spatial and motricity related dyspraxia. i was not good in geometry for the spatial aspect of it.  at 16 years old/ 2nd class of highschool i had among the best results of my class this year, my notes was around 16/17 in math. but i have to admit that most of time the two other year in my highschool part of scolarity i was around 11/20 and 14/20 ( i had the same teacher in my first and last year of highschool, highschool is during 3 years in france). i am not doing math since i am in college.

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Sociotype.com is the 16personalities of socionics.  Lame, cookie-cutter, milquetoast, surface-level bullshit.

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I don't see how you are INTJ at all. You seem much more social than even an ISTJ, so I'm not sure... but you said you had some math or number based learning disability, (different from dsylexia) so I've never heard of dysphonia, dysgraphia, dyscalculia? before so that should factor you acting differently from typical xNTJ, so I still think you are xNTJ

Honestly, I don't really like the average math student in college either. Math is a great subject, but the students in the math classes...yuck.

Also Rene Descartes is ILL which is according to Talanov and ILL is INTj or INTP.

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sociotype.com is certainly not a reliable source. read russian socionist work like talanov or stratievskaya instead.

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how is ILI socionics mbti INTP? I suppose, ILI's definition of Introverted Thinking is (id block)

ILIs are often able to understand formal logical systems without difficulty. Nonetheless, most ILIs are often not interested in interpreting overly systematic or deterministic models of reality. The ILI's view of reality is a mental and often esoteric one, and models which focus on systematic connections with little apparent external basis. Instead, ILIs often ground themselves by focusing on real-world or practical examples of their mental wanderings. ILIs not uncommonly reject the notion of overly complicated theories in favor of simple, sensible interpretations that are easily understood and observe

... the INTPs I talked to do match with this definition

https://www.sociotype.com/socionics/types/ILI-INTp/

However, I have barely studied this socionics version of mbti

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there is my new socionics article http://francois-garet.e-monsite.com/pages/descriptions-and-illustrations-of-each-socionics-type.html

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@fg, all admin had to do is remove tinymce. he got into some real world distractions so he didn't do that. the admin's making money with the trolls, though you like the mbtibase website enough that 

actually I want to change my vote for you to INTP - it feels right

regarding economics and theory, perhaps donate a euro or a french frac if possible to sakinorva (wait is this possible). as of me leaving, well since many of the other users have already stopped commenting it is highly likely I might too due to chance .. give it a month or two

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mbti Ni through the roof thinking jt is joseph

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josephty you destroy mbtibase with your trolls. i think you just should shut up and leave.

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which one of your typings are a result of not having done enough reserach or life experiences, as a result you change it and publicly announce it

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http://francois-garet.e-monsite.com/

there is my socionics site if you are interested in this area. carefull few of my typings in my first articles were wrong . however i corrected them in one article. a new article will probably arrive in one week.

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yes . mainly asian religion.

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hey bro did u know jungian psychology has roots in religion

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*very constructive. be competent in what you do instead of advise someone who take seriously what he do to be less serious.

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very constructive. be competent in what you do instead of advise someone to take seriously what he do.

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You palce to much emphaeses on Socionics.

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you like to think hard and consider every possible side of an idea before making judgements

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i seriously don't get the INTP letter vote . i am not P. INTP function =/= LII. i wonder why i would be INTP by function.

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Wow phsc - quite the imagination! 

ISFJ - leading with introverted sensing and then extroverted feeling - the type most focused on tangible information and the opinions of others.  Also capable of being fantastic caring friends who always remember your birthday by sending your a beautifully wrapped gift with your favorite color wrapping paper.  But not when in counterphobic mode- a level of development soon outgrown with some effort.

I'll update my assessment to an IxxJ, but resist the normative demands to conform.

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iNTJ 1w9 154 So/Sx LSI-Ti / EIE-Fe

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heh heh - counterphobics anonymous club

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typing fg heart 3 is degeneracy

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taco110 you must not know about the J/P switch get out of here with your incompetence.

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mais votre vote me paraît symptomatique d'une mauvaise réflexion . Il me semble plus affecté par des affects que par des arguments. Si argument il y a pour supporter ce vote, j'aimerai l'entendre. S est ridicule, on me reproche souvent d'être trop dans la théorie et trop abstrait, je suis élève en licence de philosophie. F semble tout aussi indéfendable lorsque on connaît mon indifférence voir mon aversion par rapport a une quelconque harmonie, vous êtes d'ailleurs le seul membre de ce site à ne pas me voter comme un T à 100%. peut être qu'il vaut mieux argumenter plutôt que se contenter d'affirmer :)

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Il vaut mieux réfléchir :)

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Lady X. i just can't take this vote seriously.

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@LVNA fg as alpha is ridiculous

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Napoleon's steed looks a little bewildered.. contrasting with the grace bestowed upon it with that magnificent tail bow.

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sperg

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why it would be a shame to had the proof that i verify informations?

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yeah but you've got napoleon's dick in your search history who's the winner now

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and even if it is indeed his one . it is natural that a dead penis became smaller. and even if is penis was indeed a micropenis, what does it change? it would not change the fact that he was one of the most powerful man of his time and that he have totally changed the whole institutions of his country. how many porn actor did do the half of what he did ? none.

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there is actually no proof that it was his one who had be finded. and two person claim to possess it . you should made some researsch before claiming something.

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napoleon had a micropenis

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Galaxy Strider you said that i was the most J user when you were on the discord, then you are typing me as SLE. we can add it with the many proof of your lack of consistency.all of it, just  because i hurted your little feeling when i typed you 316 . you are the typical example of a black sensing revengefullness without any logical function for supporting it. thanks for bringing me even more argument for my typing. since you typed me SLE/ the conqueror. i will add this Napoleonic painting for symbolizing my superiority on you as well as your pathetic defeat.

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"While Ones certainly do think, they are primarily people of action, and are only interested in ideas that lead to some practical result. Fives, however, are truly a mental type: they can ponder any proposition or idea and do not particularly care about its practical ramifications."

"Ones are people of strong convictions and opinions as befitting a type in the Instinctive (or Gut) Triad. Average to unhealthy Ones are entirely convinced of the rightness of their views, and respect people who hold similar strength in their convictions. They think as a way of buttressing their already established beliefs. Average to unhealthy Fives tend to get lost in a maze of uncertainty. "

https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/misidentifying-1-and-5

based on it i am indeed 1>5.

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I'm going with LSI. LIE also makes sense somewhat, but overall I think how principled, firm in your views, and obsessive about logical correctness you are points to Ti > Te.

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LSI-Ti: The ISTj Logical Subtype

Description by V. Meged and A. Ovcharov

Appearance

The logical subtype is self-assured, calm, restrained, correct and impenetrable. At times he may seem arrogant. Sufficiently kind, imperturbable, and unemotional. Very polite and attentive to details in conversation, likes to specify and clarify everything, but sometimes becomes too focused on details that are nonessential to others. Unhurried, perhaps even slow. Likes receiving exhaustively comprehensive and thorough information to his inquiries. Dislikes ambiguity. Internally, he is quite collected. Never loses his spirit and sense of perseverance. Tries to encourage those who are in need of support. Has a direct, motionless gaze that seems to look right through and not at his conversation partner. His movements are measured but constrained; there is a tendency to shuffle his feet against the floor when walking. When he turns, he does so with his entire body such that it sometimes seems like his neck is fixed to his shoulders; doesn't like to turn his head.

Character

A sober realist who knows how to find a way out of difficult situations. Stoic: overcomes difficulties without complaining. Dislikes running too much ahead and is able to patiently wait for the outcome. It is difficult to convince him to change his stances. He is uncompromising in matters that he considers to be important. Prefers to prepare for everything in advance since he doesn't like improvising; feels uncomfortable with change and instability. Somewhat contradictory and given to internal doubts, but ultimately does not let his internal vacillations undermine his main orientations. Knows how to consistently and persistently overcome all obstacles. Prefers to implement his knowledge into practice. Tries to stabilize any situation. Bravely endures through misfortunes and adversity while not losing his heart and spirit.

Lacks sufficient flexibility in dealing with people and is poor at taking their individual abilities into account. Does not trust those who are light-headed and light-hearted because he is not sure of whether their feelings are trustworthy. Tolerant of defects of those who are close to him; serves as a reliable support for them. Quickly grows tired of interacting with people; quite tolerant of solitude. Restrained and unobtrusive. The objective matters for him are more important than personal relationships and feelings. Usually a private person who does not readily share his experiences with outsiders. Doesn't demonstrate what he is feeling: hunger, fear, pain, etc. Tries not to burden others with himself; relies on the help of close people only in extreme cases.

He loves precision and concreteness in everything. Consistent and thorough in his activities and decisions. Careful and thorough in carrying out his tasks. Intolerant of slackness and irresponsibility from others. Follows through his assignments to their completion. Trusts only in official sources of information. A good researcher of narrow issues. Delves into all the details without dismissing and losing sight of anything minor. Accurately maintains records, likes to clarify facts, readily informs those who turn to him for advice about any regulations, about which he is usually informed. In an administrative position, he can establish a clear work regimen, discipline, and order. As a manger, he most often adheres to a chain of command. Very operative and conscientious, possesses a sense of duty. Demanding of himself and others. Tries to be even and reasonable, not go to extremes or fall into illusions.

Modest and unpretentious in his household. Tends to be conservative in his views and habits. If he finds his work interesting and inspirational, may give it his preference while neglecting his personal needs, may see the main purpose of his life in his work. Attentive and friendly companion who knows how to patiently listen and give useful advice.

Description by Victor Gulenko

Most rational logical type. Very constructive. Their aims are in hierarchy; works thoroughly and brings everything to its end without missing a detail. Not very dynamic and does not transfer confusion. Outwardly is strict, sustained, somewhat single-minded. In working situations is official, and even with close relatives can manifest a barrack style of behaviour. Clothing is conservative, for males: his suit is often in a strict, dark tone.

Sexual behavior

Restrained in their expression of feelings with an aim towards clarity and definition; disposed to flatness in relations and reacts negatively to quarrels. Inclined to doubts and distrustfulness. Often show concern about their partner and provide them with pleasant gifts and trifles. Require a sensitive, delicate partner, since they are straight-line/simple in sexual contacts and sufficiently restrained in the positive and negative expression of emotions. Need an attentive, thoughtful partner, whom will not tie them to their will. Their partner should yield to their persuasions and strive to satisfy all of their requirements.

 This article incorporates text from Wikisocion.org.

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Hard to say. I'd type you as either ENTJ (going by your videos) or ISTJ.

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i have one https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOYbCyEgNvD_Uu4sVsA_lbw/videos?sort=dd&shelf_id=0&view=0 but it's in french.

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about relationship i probaby look like more to gamma because gamma's description seem a lot related with serious topic discussion, but if we go by how i percieve the world it's very beta related  i tend to see people as member of hierarchy,  superstructure, country, social class and have a tendency to attribute some characteristics to this belongings.

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get LIE on http://www.sociotype.com's test, get LSI on talanov's

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i partly disagree because of the comparison made on the socionicstype.com(who use reinin dichotomies, that is often invalidate by representative example of the types)  but you are right that i have a lot of socio Te.  you are very convincing about the enneagramm 1 social typing but when i did the enneagramm test on sarkinova 2 was my last type with -36 as a score. so 1w2 is less probable than 1w9 if we take in account those score.i thank you for your explanation.

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the comparison between the types in socionicstype.com are related to reinin dichotomies. a thing that is criticized by a lot of socionists (i'm also against this dichotomies) in general socionicstype.com is a very limited source. i advise you to watch the descriptions made in wiki socionics instead of socionicstype.com .

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i was questionning him about his socionics typing.

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Kamidere would be a better term for describing me than Tsundere

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Heavyheart not that i disagree with your typing, but i would like to hear your reasoning.

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SLI? lol socio Si is probably one of my weakest function. try harder.

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i tend to value both socio Ti (categorization, ideology, duty, principle, structure) and socio Te (results, facts, authority figure , good work process). and tend to relate with socio Se/Ni axis (Ni:interested about political possibilities, change in time, comparison between ages, determinism etc...) (Se: authority, control, plannification, winning a conflict, determination) far more than with socio Ne/Si axis. so i am beta ST or  gamma NT. if we go with general descriptions of quadra made herehttp://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/15-Socionics-Four-Quadra  i am more Beta but if we go by group attitude i am more Gamma.

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correlates with LSI better than 5w6 too.

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reformer*

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1w9 critical reformator > 5w6 detached analyst

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i also value more stict moral rules than harmony (Fi>Fe)

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he probably voted ISTP because i humiliated him in our debate on Nietzsche.or because he is enough ignorant to think that cognitive function = socionics functions. but in MBTI i'm certainly not a Se type even at a second function, i hate taking risk and i'm not able too interacte correctly with my phisycal environments.i'm also more Te than Ti, (i use rules created by some authorities systematicly) and i quote a lot, instead of trying to "make sense" with the object, and trying to make my own rules.

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Wow I relate all too much to these Se-related actions add me to the list

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hard to choose because i relate much with the LSI-Ti as well ."The logical subtype is self-assured, calm, restrained, correct and impenetrable. At times he may seem arrogant. Sufficiently kind, imperturbable, and unemotional. Very polite and attentive to details in conversation, likes to specify and clarify everything, but sometimes becomes too focused on details that are nonessential to others. Unhurried, perhaps even slow. Likes receiving exhaustively comprehensive and thorough information to his inquiries. Dislikes ambiguity. Internally, he is quite collected. Never loses his spirit and sense of perseverance. Tries to encourage those who are in need of support. Has a direct, motionless gaze that seems to look right through and not at his conversation partner. His movements are measured but constrained; there is a tendency to shuffle his feet against the floor when walking. When he turns, he does so with his entire body such that it sometimes seems like his neck is fixed to his shoulders; doesn't like to turn his head. A sober realist who knows how to find a way out of difficult situations. Stoic: overcomes difficulties without complaining. Dislikes running too much ahead and is able to patiently wait for the outcome. It is difficult to convince him to change his stances. He is uncompromising in matters that he considers to be important. Prefers to prepare for everything in advance since he doesn't like improvising; feels uncomfortable with change and instability. Somewhat contradictory and given to internal doubts, but ultimately does not let his internal vacillations undermine his main orientations. Knows how to consistently and persistently overcome all obstacles. Prefers to implement his knowledge into practice. Tries to stabilize any situation. Bravely endures through misfortunes and adversity while not losing his heart and spirit. Lacks sufficient flexibility in dealing with people and is poor at taking their individual abilities into account. Does not trust those who are light-headed and light-hearted because he is not sure of whether their feelings are trustworthy. Tolerant of defects of those who are close to him; serves as a reliable support for them. Quickly grows tired of interacting with people; quite tolerant of solitude. Restrained and unobtrusive. The objective matters for him are more important than personal relationships and feelings. Usually a private person who does not readily share his experiences with outsiders. Doesn't demonstrate what he is feeling: hunger, fear, pain, etc. Tries not to burden others with himself; relies on the help of close people only in extreme cases. He loves precision and concreteness in everything. Consistent and thorough in his activities and decisions. Careful and thorough in carrying out his tasks. Intolerant of slackness and irresponsibility from others. Follows through his assignments to their completion. Trusts only in official sources of information. A good researcher of narrow issues. Delves into all the details without dismissing and losing sight of anything minor. Accurately maintains records, likes to clarify facts, readily informs those who turn to him for advice about any regulations, about which he is usually informed. In an administrative position, he can establish a clear work regimen, discipline, and order. As a manger, he most often adheres to a chain of command. Very operative and conscientious, possesses a sense of duty. Demanding of himself and others. Tries to be even and reasonable, not go to extremes or fall into illusions. Modest and unpretentious in his household. Tends to be conservative in his views and habits. If he finds his work interesting and inspirational, may give it his preference while neglecting his personal needs, may see the main purpose of his life in his work. Attentive and friendly companion who knows how to patiently listen and give useful advice."

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LSI-Se subtype:"Appearance: The sensory subtype appears more restless in behavior and internally emotional than the logical subtype. May seem somewhat restrained yet also obstinate and stubborn in his views, willing to enter conflicts when his opinions are not honored. Self-controlled and impersonal in his demeanor. Dislikes objections and lengthy explanations. Often watches the actions of others in order to try to assist them or to point out their mistakes. Sometimes in indignation he makes reprimanding remarks, other times he simply completes the task himself or tries to help another person do it better. Flaring up, he can become unduly sharp and absolutist in his statements. Occasionally he tries to amend the situation and smiles with kindness and charm. He walks at a rapid pace, placing his feet as if he is "stamping" the ground. Makes an impression of a well-coordinated and active person. Dresses conservatively, but aims for an aesthetically pleasant, even stylish, appearance. In conversation, he attempts to get closer to his partner but doesn't make direct contact. Not inclined to overly sensitive, affectionate, and permissive treatment.

Character: He is persistent in achieving his goals. Orients quickly in extreme situations, displaying considerable willpower, endurance, and practical resourcefulness. Able to protect the interests of his project or business with energy and obstinacy in various situations. Usually confident in his opinions, which he bases on facts and his experience. Sometimes manifests excessive obstinacy and intractability. Dislikes being objected to or when someone else tries to impose their will or working methods on him. Inquisitive, accumulates useful information. Often has interests in areas of morality, art, and legislation. Refers to novel and differing points of view with distrust and suspicion, since it is quite difficult for him to change his positions and way of thinking.

Can apply pressure on his subordinates if he is in a leadership position, forcing them to work conscientiously; inclined to "tighten the screws" giving instructions in imperative intonation; will check if his orders have been carried out. If his arguments are not taken under consideration, may flare up and try to force others to do everything as it should be done. Internally disapproves of violations of established regulations. Assesses and judges work by the difficulties and challenges that were overcome during its implementation. Applies the same requirements to everyone without taking individual abilities and circumstances into account.

From time to time needs an emotional discharge to alleviate his inner tensions. In such cases does not hide his emotions and waits for reciprocal sincerity from his partner. Finds it difficult to attain inner balance. At times he loses his restraint and with an outburst can undermine previously established relationships. He is not always able to maintain stable and friendly relations with other people due to his intransigence and straightforwardness of his views and opinions. Despite this, he is usually quite hardy and enduring, both on emotional and physical level.

Rarely talks about his own feelings and personal affairs; and if he does, he speaks about such subjects to very few people. Does not delve deeply into the personal lives of other people, except may be out of politeness. Considers it his duty to help other people in difficult moments; in such cases he shows attentiveness and sympathy and tries to provide the necessary service. Poorly discerns how other people relate to him; due to this it is inclined to doubt their sincerity, or, conversely, can mistake his own desire to be loved for actual love. Prone to harboring ill-founded suspicions.

Hardworking, takes on many tasks and chores thinking that he can do them better than others. Dedicated to taking care of his loved ones and does so selflessly feeling responsible for their well-being. Tries to provide everything that is needed for his household. Watches for cleanliness and order; strives for aesthetics in appearance and his everyday life. Inclined to create comfort, but dislikes excesses. Feels irritated when others touch his things or do something without his permission."
 

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I said I married an ogre, still one step above incel

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aren't u the guy who said he flips burgers and married an ogre

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incel

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ur getting +0.25 N points for finally using letters

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INTJ vs INTJ: Who is the greatest mind?

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Pretty stupid to compare your use of the word with my use of the word "special snowflake"

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the whiny special snowflake who whine on the chat who think that i am a special snowflake, quite ironic.

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the potential opinions of other people*.

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" that was a way of saying that "function typing", was a better name than "idr" " That would mean that you're a special snowflake among fives, making himself look stupid to represent potential other people's opinions

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" if you are not enough"N" for undersatanding that, maybe you have the answer to your exclamation on your page" Consider it a good attempt at copying your personality then

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that was a way of saying that "function typing", was a better name than "idr", if you are not enough"N" for undersatanding that, maybe you have the answer to your exclamation on your page. 

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Haha! You asked what idr stands for even though you're a function knight! How ridiculous! Get mocked!

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what's idr?

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not yet.

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Have you decided on socionics type?

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if this can help too type Berlioz:

He likes:

petting

Sleep

on my mother's computer (he have some trouble when he wake up)

on office chair

on his pillow

on my father's carpet

in the laundry basket

play with

lizard dead body that he have killed.

his toys

pens

 the wool ball of my mother (he had some trouble after she find it)

almost anything small that he can find

he fear

my mother when she find that he made trouble

other cats (he start to attack them when they are on his territory, then when the other cat start to be intimidating he ask us some help)

my neighbour's dog

everyone at night when he think that he have to go to bed, and every one will try to caught him. (he is lock on the kitchen at night because my mother don't want to heard him at night==> when he enter on a room the night he start to catch and nibble our foots)

the vacuum cleaner

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Aww he's so cute!! I'll type him ISTJ because he looks pretty sophisticated

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Is that an aristocats reference?

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Berlioz?

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https://imgur.com/a/4xbXKF4

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@fg Please do

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i can made a page about my cat with a photo of him if the people want to.

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He will ruthlessly debate you to death over typology...

All while gently petting his soft kitty
5 2018-05-17 04:57:10pm (post #602)

if it can help you to type me

what i love

my cat

functions

debate

classifing concept

dirty jokes

my  family

my country

what i hate

when people type by letter

anti-intellectualism

birds

romance series

everyday life discussion

religion

the president of my country

My Hobbies

watching political debate, science fiction,animated movies, fantasy,and political documentary

build bionicle

read comic books,manga or read philosophy books

my academical center of interest

philosophy(especially political philosophy),history,litterature and sociology.

description of me:

made by my teacher

serious,hard working,exemplary behaviour,quick minded,mature and intersted.

made by my family

obsessive,intolerant,funny,helpful, head in the cloud(in a negative way),stressed,too much argumentative, intellectual, tactless.

made by my friends

stressed,perverted sense of humour,thinking too much, funny, obsessive,cocky.

made by my classmate

know it all,serious,rigid,intolerant but sympathic despite everything.

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wannabe INTJ with special snowflake syndrome

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yeah after read more about socionics  Lxx(xxTj) in socionics term fit to me probably more than ILI INTp. don't knowyet  if in socionic function i'm more Ti (LxI) or Te (LxE).

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I think you've gotta be a Logical type at the very least (LxI or LxE), LSI is the "vibes" that your persona give off as I already mentioned but LIE makes quite a bit more sense to me than ILI.

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I don't have any strong arguments right now, but your vibe seems more 1 than 8 to me, you seem to be more concerned with promoting what you think is the right thing to do (functions) than being in control or ruthlessly defending yourself from others.

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take the socionics test and get LIE.

take  few function mbti test and get INTJ most of time and sometimes ISTJ

take few letter mbti test and get INTJ as much as ENTJ

take few enneagramm test and got 5, 8 or 1.

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